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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Honestly my suggestion is to just think of what fantasy you enjoy the most and then try and stick with it.
    Jobs fundamentally change quite drastically with the levels, a BLM at 90 is totally different than a BLM at 60.
    I think you'd be surprised how much they open up, I think it's fairly different than in most other MMO's how drastically they can change at later levels and how it all flows together.

    DRG comes to mind too, it's just a different beast entirely when you've got your whole toolkit.
    I am unsure whether I'd recommend DRG on controller tho but maybe someone who plays it with a controller could give you a better idea.
    But DRG has quite a lot of buttons to weave.

    I think that you might enjoy RDM tho, RDM is very popular for good reason they're very fun to play and fairly straight-forward and easy to understand.
    Don't worry too much about it feeling complicated, you'll get it with time.
    Most people are also very forgiving and won't give you a hard time about it.

    If you want the most streamlined suggestion then I'd say WAR.
    I was quite surprised when I leveled WAR, WAR and BRD were the only two Jobs that I never really took to max level in any expansions but I decided to do it in EW.
    And WAR has this feeling of being fairly complete relatively early, and then it kinda feels like you're getting upgraded versions of those attacks.
    I'd definitely say it's one of the most consistent and streamlined ones, it receives it's big skills fairly early on compared to others and then you basically get upgraded versions of those abilities.
    So it's not like it changes so drastically all of the sudden at certain points it's a fairly consistent curve.

    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
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    The OP doesn't have the old way the Jobs play to compare with.
    They don't all suck cmon why y'all gotta be like this all the time...
    I get people are salty about changes they don't like but the OP simply doesn't have that reference, someone who starts SAM today won't have experienced Kaiten for example and won't even know that it's missing.

    Especially compared to most other MMO's I still think even in the current state FFXIV Jobs are more engaging than other Classes tbh.
    Even if I still miss some of the older iterations ( especially some support Jobs and utility, but that's a wider issue of TP removal and Enmity being simplified etc ).

    It's funny how you mention that they're more fun in PvP too when they're even more simplified in PvP to the point you basically have 3-5 skills and even less engaging systems.
    Like wat.
    I really wonder what other MMO's some of you guys think are so much better in this regard.
    I've played a lot of MMO's in my life and even current FFXIV is still significantly more complex and engaging with its Jobs than in other MMO's I've played.

    Especially interesting when the OP said he found RDM complicated.
    I really think we take for granted how complicated the Jobs actually are to new players in particular, it's also how you end up with myths today about how BLM is '' immobile ''.
    Because people don't understand their own tools.

    Yeah, to me Optimal Drift on MNK and regaining alignment with cd's and timers on MNK as well as other Jobs may be fairly simple and straight-forward.
    But that's also because I've played it all to death I have pretty deep layers of muscle memory so it's going to feel easy.
    But if you actually look around and ask people who don't they often feel like Jobs are too complicated and difficult to play even.
    Ofc when you're used to something it's going to feel easy tho, it's the same with fights too at some point you can do the fights while borderline wearing a blindfold.

    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Typically if you have to heal on RDM your group is already doomed. The only thing you would usually need to target another player for is a combat raise. The only buffs you have to worry about are Embolden and Manification every two minutes and Acceleration. Red Mage is fun, you should give it a shot. I am by no means a caster type player but RDM has just enough melee and overall style to keep my attention when the mood strikes me.
    Pretty much lol, whenever I see a RDM or PLD spam Vercure or Clemency I am like '' uh oh ''.


    Edit: Also for OP, if you enjoy DNC I wouldn't let the idea of '' support '' get in your way.
    You'll never get shut out of content because of it, people will want a physical ranged DPS.
    And they have respectable enough damage where I don't think you'll have issues in solo content.

    No one will look down on it if that's what you're afraid of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Travel View Post
    I'm used to Reddit and Discord, if you know what I mean.
    Tbh don't get your hopes up lol.
    This place can test your sanity at times.

    Especially when it comes to doom and gloom I'd suggest taking it with a huge fist of salt, people in this place have a tendency to be extremely hyperbolic and negative for the sake of being negative.
    Even if there's some kind of a point there it tends to get derailed into realms of absurdity.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 07-20-2022 at 03:44 AM.