Can we go back to banning people for ERP crap?

[Neoyoshi]

Wouldn't it be easier to ignore them?

If people were chasing after you all day everywhere you go flashing their cat boobs at you I'd understand; but it's just a advertisement.

[LianaThorne]

Im kinda tired of mmos becomming an outlet for sexual degeneracy

"Becoming."

I remember being hit on constantly when Perfect World was a thing a decade or more ago and Second Life pretty much shot ERP/being sexual online to a place of no return.
There's no "becoming", MMOs/social hangout type games have been pervy for a long time now.

Kinda just have to accept it and if it bothers you, avoid it. There's no stopping it though.

[rainichan]

Although you may not yet realize it, what you're actually complaining about is Roleplaying in general as a whole as well as mass gathering events.
The majority of these clubs, nothing crazy is happening. You go in and 40 people are beeskneeing and talking/joking with their friends. There are also the sfw versions which are more or less the exact same thing, except those tend to be more like..you sit down and have a little meal and enjoy the lovely effort that they put into decorating the house for this. I have gone to many many many venues as well as had friends who worked in them. In the 2 years I've spent in xiv, I have never once seen any perverted text appear in these venues. Not once. -I've seen someone slip a misstell and say it in LIMSA but not a venue lol. I'm on Aether though so that could be why, I've never been to Crystal ones. Although I heard a lot of fuss about how TERRRRRRRRRIBLE quicksands in Balmung was only to see like 200 people standing there talking about random other things. Maybe its worse at certain times? I dont know, but that was a big nothing-bomb too tbh.

When it comes tooo nsfw venues. Does ERP happen? Yes, but it happens in tells. If you cant see it then why are you crying? Are you really being upset by your own hallucinations? If its legitimate foul text that you're seeing out in the open, thats entirely reportable. Just report it? The whole 'their advertising is annoying' thing though...I think you should at least be fair and admit that you don't like any of these social gatherings period. Because that's what it it really is. Its huge gatherings with a dj streaming and you dont like to see them spreading the word about it. Which if you want to play a solo game thats fine, but this is an MMO which means that yes, there will be large social events run by players. I dont know why people join MMOs and then have meltdowns that there are other people doing other things in it. Like, a-doy...

Balmung Quicksand was a place where you knew ERP happened, but mostly it was tavern rp. It's always been busy, any time of day, for easy walkup bar rp. It's gotten worse and most erp now comes from Wanderers lol. Because of the "haha erp" reputation we had for... being normal roleplayers... people took that personally and decided that if they wanted easy erp to just hop to Balmung. Most venue ads I see aren't even on Balmung, they're all on other servers with Diabolos and Marlboro being the big ones. Not to say that Balmung or others don't have them, they do, same with erp...

...but erp is on all servers. Thirsty people gonna thirst and they'll get that erp water somehow, no matter what server they're actually on.

[Senn]

I always just assumed 18+ PF's implied it was an erp venue without stating it outright. The hosts have plausible deniability in case they get reported.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were people going to these venues thinking "18+ doesn't necessarily mean there's any erp" only to find out that it's totally a trap.

[LianaThorne]

I always just assumed 18+ PF's implied it was an erp venue without stating it outright. The hosts have plausible deniability in case they get reported.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were people going to these venues thinking "18+ doesn't necessarily mean there's any erp" only to find out that it's totally a trap.

Some venues don't offer ERP but still list as 18+ because they simply don't want to hang out with those who aren't adults. I used to co-own a lounge that had a strict No ERP rule but we still listed as 18+ because no one working there wanted to really hang out with anyone still in high school. It's usually pretty obvious if a place is trying to cover for brothel workers compared to just wanting people their own age around.

[george357]

interesting topic went no where really fast waiting for it to reach melt down status.

[Renalt]

Seriously I go to any main city and it's nothing but spam from people advertising their stupid erp cafe. Can we go back to banning them please? I'm tired of nonstop erp cafe spam.

I'm not a fan of ERP but there are people who stay with the game strictly to do just that.

Just cause you don't like it doesn't justify a ban. Sorry you'll either learn to deal or just suffer in silence.

[Tetsujin]

I sincerely doubt every RP cafe is a hidden ERP club. The PF ads for that stand out easily, they're all marked 18+ and/or named in a way that implies their nature if not outright confirms it. I dunno what to tell you OP, just read on and go to SFW places. They have nothing to do with you, people shouldn't be banned for minding their own business.

I don't like pornography blasted on social media but y'know, I just ignore it/don't follow and life goes on. I'm never forced to see it. Same in FFXIV.

[rainichan]

I always just assumed 18+ PF's implied it was an erp venue without stating it outright. The hosts have plausible deniability in case they get reported.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were people going to these venues thinking "18+ doesn't necessarily mean there's any erp" only to find out that it's totally a trap.

Some just don't want underage people around, regardless if it's SFW or not. If something devolves into not T-rated friendly, be it language or whatever (not that teenagers don't sling around f-bombs or anything, but) they just don't want to deal with it. Again, a lot of roleplayers, both non-erp and erp, don't like the fact that someone can lie about their age and don't want to deal with that if it's the case, and it makes it easier to kind of... vet who they may be playing against.

I sincerely doubt every RP cafe is a hidden ERP club. The PF ads for that stand out easily, they're all marked 18+ and/or named in a way that implies their nature if not outright confirms it. I dunno what to tell you OP, just read on and go to SFW places. They have nothing to do with you, people shouldn't be banned for minding their own business.

I don't like pornography blasted on social media but y'know, I just ignore it/don't follow and life goes on. I'm never forced to see it. Same in FFXIV.

They definitely aren't. Most PFs will say exactly what they are or hint that there may be "extra services" or whatever, the rest truly are everyone's AU coffee shop dreams of sitting in a cafe/restaurant/tavern and getting a smaller venue of walk up rp instead of just the Quicksands or something. I helped a friend in one, and it was just talking with the people coming in, other people talking with the others, etc. A couple people went to the upstairs and took it to party/tells... but my friend basically did the equivalent of a broomstick on the ceiling and chased them out if they were going to be doing THAT in the cafe lmao. It's not welcome everywhere, most try to keep it at least PG-13, but some are more obvious than others.

[EnnCee]

One is permanent and one is not. So people saying they got banned when in fact they just got a 3 day suspension is false.

they're called "temp-banned" and "perma-banned"...so it's not false.