The Men FFXIV Needs

[Lauront]

I'm not entirely convinced that Viera need to be more masculine at all. Does every race need to be able to span both extremes? On one hand, if you can make massively ripped, bearded, chiseled jaw Viera men and slight, soft featured, pretty boy roes then that's a wide variety of character creator options and you are allowed a greater amount of creative freedoms. On the other hand, it strips away everything that makes the races unique from each other. It's really down to whether individually unique races or the full span of creative freedoms when creating your character is more important. I don't think Viera specifically need to be made more masculine when there are plenty of other masculine races that aren't being made more feminine, though. It's not really about "variety" at that point, but just wanting every male race to be very masculine. I support ideas like adding the notorious eyebrows so people will be happier with the masculine options available, but I don't think everything needs to be hyper-masculine. Viera add variety and are a unique race in themselves. I don't think they really need to look like every other male character in video games.

I really don't think it's too much to ask to have a facial option like the dadcat for the miqo'te, which also exists for the moon cattes, who aren't even exposed to the same adverse conditions as male viera are, who exist as solitary hunters barring occasional contact with their mentees. That plus better facial hair options (including stubble), since they already have those but they're just not that good. They are going to upgrade the graphics anyway, and possibly the CC in the future, and adding these options won't make the existing facial picks vanish, so I fail to see the problem. Doesn't need to be anything like the highlander faces.

Yikes! Good on the creative team for not going down that route.

On that note, I do like the height difference male Viera have compared to female Viera. I think rabbits in real life are like that, with a female rabbit being larger on average than a male rabbit of the same breed.

Still, that doesn't mean male Viera can't be manly, of course. There are plenty of short, manly kings out there.

EDIT: Also, I know that male Viera's height range isn't necessarily "short", but I know how a good chunk of people wish they were taller.

They had alternative options to approach it, like giving them a wider height range like femroes enjoy, which I think would've pleased both those who wanted them to be quite short and those who wanted taller ones. BTW you might want to refer to the below:

https://twitter.com/YasumiMatsuno/st...13786467852289

[aveyond-dreams]

Another great example of the sort of male customization options I'd like to see added is something along the lines of Chris Redfield from Resident Evil 8. A strong build with an attractive masculine face, if only we could make something like this with highlanders:

[ronibosch]

They had alternative options to approach it, like giving them a wider height range like femroes enjoy, which I think would've pleased both those who wanted them to be quite short and those who wanted taller ones. BTW you might want to refer to the below:

https://twitter.com/YasumiMatsuno/st...13786467852289

I don't understand what you're suggesting with the link.
Btw, sorry if I'm sounding sarcastic; I really don't understand.
If you are referring to me bringing up the sexual dimorphism of rabbits, I'm referencing a point someone brought up in a past Viera thread to explain why female Viera shouldn't be tiny like female Au Ra and Miqo'te. It's cool if they don't follow how things are in real life; this is a fantasy game, after all. I just like the little (possibly unintentional) height difference between female and male Viera.

[Lauront]

If you're not aware of who that is, he is the creator of the setting in which the Viera originate, and thus also the race itself. I just brought it up because that argument came up a bit, as you mention, but he does not consider it to be a relevant point.

[ronibosch]

If you're not aware of who that is, he is the creator of the setting in which the Viera originate, and thus also the race itself. I just brought it up because that argument came up a bit, as you mention, but he does not consider it to be a relevant point.

Oh, cool! I had a feeling he was, before looking him up.
Then their heights were just a coincidence. My apologies.

[HanWenqing]

Another great example of the sort of male customization options I'd like to see added is something along the lines of Chris Redfield from Resident Evil 8. A strong build with an attractive masculine face, if only we could make something like this with highlanders:

That's great but i also wish something like this

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

That's great but i also wish something like this

+1 from me

[Theodric]

Another great example of the sort of male customization options I'd like to see added is something along the lines of Chris Redfield from Resident Evil 8. A strong build with an attractive masculine face, if only we could make something like this with highlanders:

Chris is pretty great - and he has a pretty striking appearance in every Resident Evil game that he has shown up in over the years. I'd definitely like the ability to create a character that looks like him.

I know a fair few people who haven't bothered checking out FFXIV after realising that the character creator is so limited when compared to many other games out there.

[RobynDaBank]

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I mean, kind of ironic to include Revolver Ocelot, a person who in his teens was a borderline twink who meowed to summon his pals - and in his middle age was a cowboy cosplayer.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

The Man FFXIV Needs