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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    You can't deploy critlo anymore. Ever since they split it into 2 effects. Galvanise (normal shield) and Catalyse (critical shield) if you use deployment tactics you only deploy galvanise not caralyse.

    One of the reasons deployment tactics is so weak now. Can't even deploy protraction.. and if you need aoe shields it's easier to just succor...

    Untargettable fairy doesn't help either. Used to be some play there. Deploying off of a well placed fairy to ensure maximum shield spread.of a full hp shield due to fairy ignoring most damage..
    When you force adlo to crit with recitation the base galvanise still crits which is independent of catalyse, that’s stronger galvanise can be spread, it also allows single target heal up buffs like krasis and natures Minne to impact a group wide shield

    It is far far stronger than just casting succor
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Ragnarok
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    And in case you don't know how broken Scholar's Aldo spread can get, the first Curtain Call in P4S can be totally skipped with Aldo + Spread & Tank LB3 since week 1/2.
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    It can be skipped without a SCH too, we've done SGE/AST but WHM/SGE works fine too. The main important thing for this strat is stacking enough mitigation.

    That said, I fully agree Spreadlo is really strong.
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    Every job in FF14 is a DPS, no matter what role you got.

    Lots of mitigation abilities, heal increase% abilities, and other things were put onto other jobs to help healers not break their back. Healers does that small amount of DPS to help get that clear. In a way; its an exchange.

    Its a team effort. Its a team based game. People need to learn to work together to make it work well. Its why there is such a heavy meme in our community about players not pressing their buttons even if they seem so inconvenient. They do help out the team in the long run.

    Healer role isnt just about the healer; its about how the healer works with their team.

    That makes sense to me, and the diverse responsibility of support and DPS for most jobs is where its fun, and gets more fun if a team can work together.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gember View Post
    Every job in FF14 is a DPS, no matter what role you got.

    Lots of mitigation abilities, heal increase% abilities, and other things were put onto other jobs to help healers not break their back. Healers does that small amount of DPS to help get that clear. In a way; its an exchange.

    Its a team effort. Its a team based game. People need to learn to work together to make it work well. Its why there is such a heavy meme in our community about players not pressing their buttons even if they seem so inconvenient. They do help out the team in the long run.

    Healer role isnt just about the healer; its about how the healer works with their team.

    That makes sense to me, and the diverse responsibility of support and DPS for most jobs is where its fun, and gets more fun if a team can work together.
    I mean while nothing you said is untrue that still really doesn’t explain the direction that they are going with healers, if they want to make team survival more group oriented making healers more simple doesn’t really align with that nor does removal of phys ranged buffs or agro management so DPS and healers could play a role in tanking and the like
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katoar View Post
    And in case you don't know how broken Scholar's Aldo spread can get, the first Curtain Call in P4S can be totally skipped with Aldo + Spread & Tank LB3 since week 1/2.
    Tank LB3 negates a whole lot of stuff regardless.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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