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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    Yes, obviously you have a lot of experience with children.
    You are assuming children have the same degree of understanding and wisdom as adults, they always do what they are told, always go with the right choice.
    You are projecting adult behaviour onto children, and not even adults are able to do the right thing at all times.

    The human brain fully matures at the age of 25, a 13 year old brain is far from being able to comprehend how the world works.
    No matter how good of a parent you are, you cannot expect a 13 year old child to always behave properly, that's why there are so many laws directed at the protection of children.
    Again watch your damn kids. Guess what? Kids can't play this game unless their parents pay their subs past a certain point. If you don't want your kids under the age of thirteen [which kids under 13 aren't legally supposed to be in this game in the first place without strict parental supervision, accounts have gotten banned because they belonged to kids under 13] exposed to things in this game, don't allow them to have unsupervised internet access or purchase the game. Simple as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Again watch your damn kids. Guess what? Kids can't play this game unless their parents pay their subs past a certain point. If you don't want your kids under the age of thirteen [which kids under 13 aren't legally supposed to be in this game in the first place without strict parental supervision, accounts have gotten banned because they belonged to kids under 13] exposed to things in this game, don't allow them to have unsupervised internet access or purchase the game. Simple as.
    Just read the rules dude, ERP is already against the ToS. Smarter people than you and me decided that pretty much on a global level, you can present your argument to them.
    All I want is an easier way to report public ERP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    Just read the rules dude, ERP is already against the ToS. Smarter people than you and me decided that pretty much on a global level, you can present your argument to them.
    All I want is an easier way to report public ERP.
    No, public erp is against the rules, not erp in general. Hell, the one GM that tried to ban people for erp party finders? That guy got disciplined and moved to another team and all bans he handed out were rescinded and the marks removed from the records of the players. Why? Because any 18+ activity was performed behind closed doors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    No, public erp is against the rules, not erp in general. Hell, the one GM that tried to ban people for erp party finders? That guy got disciplined and moved to another team and all bans he handed out were rescinded and the marks removed from the records of the players. Why? Because any 18+ activity was performed behind closed doors.
    That's a complete lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    That's a complete lie.
    Yoship said it was fine between consensual people in private.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Yoship said it was fine between consensual people in private.
    Source? Because I call this another lie.
    Yoshi-P has a whole legal team watching his every action, saying something like that would mean having a lawsuit on their backs soon as it would not only be against the current game rules, but against the law of most countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    Source? Because I call this another lie.
    Yoshi-P has a whole legal team watching his every action, saying something like that would mean having a lawsuit on their backs soon as it would not only be against the current game rules, but against the law of most countries.
    it was in a live letter, can't remember which one.


    "but against the law of most countries."
    Lol LMAO lol. ERP is illegal guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    Source? Because I call this another lie.
    Yoshi-P has a whole legal team watching his every action, saying something like that would mean having a lawsuit on their backs soon as it would not only be against the current game rules, but against the law of most countries.
    I feel like this is going to shatter your entire world view, but did you know in the vast majority of western civilized society, the age of consent is only 16? Even in these lovely United States (excuse me all other Anglo-Sphere folk) the federal AoC is 16. In some countries it's even lower than that. I believe Japan even had an age of consent of 13 but there is A LOT more nuance to that.

    Point is, you're talking out of your ass at this point. ToS documents have also historically been thrown out in court as they are not legally binding documents. How long before you start screaming that everyone in this thread is just a closet pedophile? We've had the strawman arguments so I believe we're about due for the ad hominen attacks too. It's the last bastion of someone without a sound argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by chaotix69 View Post
    For those of you saying I’m here to troll or calling me a “Karen,” wake up. If you were to turn on the news and see a broadcast about how a sex offender coerced young teens through the use of online media, you would all be quick to demonize them. Yet you sit here in a video game forum and defend the practice of ERP by saying “what happens behind closed doors is okay.”

    What the actual fuck? How do you not see that it’s a slippery slope and a borderline double standard? It needs to go.
    How do you enforce it, friend? Apart from actively monitoring every player's communication at every moment, actively watching them. Is that not also a slippery slope? Double standards and slippery slopes work both ways. The path way to tolerance and safety is marked by extreme examples of oppression and heavy-handed punishments.

    But it's for the children, right? Give me a break.
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    Last edited by Jagick; 07-17-2022 at 12:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    Source? Because I call this another lie.
    Yoshi-P has a whole legal team watching his every action, saying something like that would mean having a lawsuit on their backs soon as it would not only be against the current game rules, but against the law of most countries.
    Redheadturk posted the exact line but it's right here under "Obscene/Indecent Expressions"

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    That's a complete lie.
    Example 2
    In the case of role-playing involving mildly sexual expressions (such as erotic role-playing) with a consenting group of two or more players, if it is conducted in a private area, it will not be considered a violation unless a report is made.
    Not a lie, this is from their tos document.
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