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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by HanWenqing View Post
    if it's over for Zodiark then who will be the new bad guy?
    It looks like continue with throwback retro bosses atm. 6.1 world of darkness scenes teased some stuff familiar to old school FF fans. Yoshida once said in interviews that even worlds from other FF games could be possible in the future, while not confirming they ever will, the story can go anywhere at this point.

    But in 6.0 finale they name dropped a bunch of locations on the Source that we haven't visited yet, so probably staying local for a while yet. IDK how to make new bosses seem threatening after all the stuff our character has beaten so far. Most of the main characters on the hero side are written too strong because fear of removing fan favourites I guess, so only nobodies are dying.

    Maybe written into a corner where we keep slaying the monster of the week and nobody believes we are ever in real danger. It's a really hard problem to solve now to give any weight to actions and credibility to enemies. It's like 'reset tv' where everything is always fine and back to normal by the end of the episode. Events are basically isolated in their own time bubbles in this MMO format, no influence on the world at large.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    No it's not, you clearly weren't around during Stormblood.

    The Lyse and Zenos hate was real, Yotsuyu was polarizing and Fordola was just a mess.

    This is tame. Like, real tame.
    I didn't say that it's the worst that the forums had ever been - I said that the forums are the worst part of Endwalker.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    It looks like continue with throwback retro bosses atm. 6.1 world of darkness scenes teased some stuff familiar to old school FF fans. Yoshida once said in interviews that even worlds from other FF games could be possible in the future, while not confirming they ever will, the story can go anywhere at this point.

    But in 6.0 finale they name dropped a bunch of locations on the Source that we haven't visited yet, so probably staying local for a while yet. IDK how to make new bosses seem threatening after all the stuff our character has beaten so far. Most of the main characters on the hero side are written too strong because fear of removing fan favourites I guess, so only nobodies are dying.

    Maybe written into a corner where we keep slaying the monster of the week and nobody believes we are ever in real danger. It's a really hard problem to solve now to give any weight to actions and credibility to enemies. It's like 'reset tv' where everything is always fine and back to normal by the end of the episode. Events are basically isolated in their own time bubbles in this MMO format, no influence on the world at large.
    We could always be stripped of power, Midgardsormr did it once, Hydaelyn is dead. Nothing says we can not be nerfed or that other threats dont exist out in the world that can be a major threat.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    Meteion will be remembered as the worst-most forgettable end bosses in all FF history. In fact she already got forgotten in the current patch.
    Necron from IX is only remembered for literally coming out of nowhere, tying into nothing, and having no mention at all afterwards.
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  5. #55
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    I honestly don't think we're done with Zodiark yet.

    The fact that his character design in the trial shows him as incomplete - he's only been rejoined seven times - is a big clue that the other sundered bits of Zodiark are still out there.

    We know from the 6.1 ending that Golbez is making a debut as a villain. What it he's one of the sundered shards of Zodiark?

    Endwalker was only supposed to be the end of the Zodiark/Hydalaen saga. But if there are still remaining bits of Zodiark we need to defeat to return the lost souls of the Ancients to the Aetherial Sea, well, that's a new plot thread to follow.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    I honestly don't think we're done with Zodiark yet.

    The fact that his character design in the trial shows him as incomplete - he's only been rejoined seven times - is a big clue that the other sundered bits of Zodiark are still out there.

    We know from the 6.1 ending that Golbez is making a debut as a villain. What it he's one of the sundered shards of Zodiark?

    Endwalker was only supposed to be the end of the Zodiark/Hydalaen saga. But if there are still remaining bits of Zodiark we need to defeat to return the lost souls of the Ancients to the Aetherial Sea, well, that's a new plot thread to follow.
    I mean, Fandaniel decided to destroy what was left of Zodiark from the inside out. And it has been officially stated that the Hydaelyn/Zodiark arc is done now. I'm typically skeptical of what they say, but I believe them on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Feel free to disagree but the worst part for me was Anima. All this build up of this Primal Abomination spawning the Telophori …and the instance was the most malnourished piss easy thing in the entire expansion. Hakkue Manor requires more coordination and focus than that entire place. Massive waste of potential which is the running theme for EW as it does it again with the Ktsis…and again with the Aetherscope
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Feel free to disagree but the worst part for me was Anima. All this build up of this Primal Abomination spawning the Telophori …and the instance was the most malnourished piss easy thing in the entire expansion. Hakkue Manor requires more coordination and focus than that entire place. Massive waste of potential which is the running theme for EW as it does it again with the Ktsis…and again with the Aetherscope
    I was hoping that Anima would be a trial fight. The disappointment I felt was immeasurable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaotix69 View Post
    Not only that, but essentially nothing you did over the previous expansions mattered. It was all for naught, in place of some bird lady that feeds off negative emotions and sings a song of death???
    I got the opposite impression. At one point in Elpis, Venat asks us if it was worth it but we don't get the chance to answer. And one option when we speak to Meteion is (paraphrasing) that the answer wasn't there all along but we had created it. All of our experiences in past expansions made us the person we were at that point, someone who had loved and lost people and had bad things happen but kept moving forward. Someone who could provide the answer to why Meteion should still continue hoping.
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    Endwalker is just perfect, if you remove Zenos, loporites and censorship too.

    Spoiler (End MSQ 6.0):
    Because well at the end, zero blood while dying, it takes away from the drama of the scene.

    Thanks again for the totally useless quest where Zenos takes your body for sightseeing and comes after you crawling in the snow.
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