Mount Farming and the 99 Totem Issue

[LaylaTsarra]

I collect alts not mounts but if i had the time to mount farm it would be a lot easier if 1) they actually increased the drop rate to something reasonable, or 2) reduced the number of tokens needed. It's my understanding some trials give 2 tokens and not 1.

If mounts were account wide I'd be all over farming them but they're not.

[Tsumdere]

The 99 totem cap was implemented in HW when the only content to go through was:

60 Levels on 13 Battle Jobs
49 Dungeons
8 Beast Tribes
2 Sets of Relic Weapons
15 Extreme Trials
1 Deep Dungeon w/ No Solo
6 Alliance Raids
1 Set of Normal Raids
2 Sets of Savage Raids
Diadem (lol)

Now there is:

90 Levels on 19 Battle Jobs
86 Dungeons
16 Beast Tribes
3 Hunting Mounts
4 Sets of Relic Weapons
34 Extreme Trials
2 Deep Dungeons w/ Solo
13 Alliance Raids + 5 Relic Alliance Raids
1 Unreal Trial
4 Ultimates
4 Sets of Normal Raids
5 Sets of Savage Raids
3 Sets of Blu Mage Savage Raids
Firmament + Diadem (hundreds of hours of crafting/gathering)

This isn't even everything.

99 Totems now is exhausting. When there were only a handful of fights to go try out back in HW it was fine to have something to lock players into their sub, now there is dozens upon dozens of fights to go and collect mounts/glam from. It's frustrating to sit down in a boring EX fight you can do with your eyes closed for 20+ hours when you know there is 100 other things to go collect from content more engaging.

And to say it's just a luxury or it's optional - my brother in Christ. Everything besides MSQ and MSQ dungeons in this game is optional. It does not mean they are automatically given the pass to be shit.

[Deveryn]

The 99 totem cap was implemented in HW when the only content to go through was:

60 Levels on 13 Battle Jobs
49 Dungeons
8 Beast Tribes
2 Sets of Relic Weapons
15 Extreme Trials
1 Deep Dungeon w/ No Solo
6 Alliance Raids
1 Set of Normal Raids
2 Sets of Savage Raids
Diadem (lol)

Now there is:

90 Levels on 19 Battle Jobs
86 Dungeons
16 Beast Tribes
3 Hunting Mounts
4 Sets of Relic Weapons
34 Extreme Trials
2 Deep Dungeons w/ Solo
13 Alliance Raids + 5 Relic Alliance Raids
1 Unreal Trial
4 Ultimates
4 Sets of Normal Raids
5 Sets of Savage Raids
3 Sets of Blu Mage Savage Raids
Firmament + Diadem (hundreds of hours of crafting/gathering)

This isn't even everything.

99 Totems now is exhausting. When there were only a handful of fights to go try out back in HW it was fine to have something to lock players into their sub, now there is dozens upon dozens of fights to go and collect mounts/glam from. It's frustrating to sit down in a boring EX fight you can do with your eyes closed for 20+ hours when you know there is 100 other things to go collect from content more engaging.

And to say it's just a luxury or it's optional - my brother in Christ. Everything besides MSQ and MSQ dungeons in this game is optional. It does not mean they are automatically given the pass to be shit.

This is still a poor argument for easing the requirement, which already gets easier as time passes.

[Liam_Harper]

There's a lot of discussion about the 99 totem requirement, but that trade doesn't even exist until the content is outdated, the drop-rate is buffed, we outgear it and there's Echo added. In this case, the majority of the time it'll drop before 99 kills anyway.

As current content, you can potentially go 200-300 kills before getting a mount. We're on our third EX trial and there is no totem trade. It's backwards. Why am I discouraged from farming current content?

[Deveryn]

There's a lot of discussion about the 99 totem requirement, but that trade doesn't even exist until the content is outdated, the drop-rate is buffed, we outgear it and there's Echo added. In this case, the majority of the time it'll drop before 99 kills anyway.

As current content, you can potentially go 200-300 kills before getting a mount. We're on our third EX trial and there is no totem trade. It's backwards. Why am I discouraged from farming current content?

The question of being discouraged is something that each individual has to address on their own.
If you got your 99 totems, you're free from the duty. The mount is now guaranteed. Move on, if you like.

Half the QOL suggestions people have are easily attributed to personal choices, whether it's farming for mounts, crafting, fishing, glam any kind of "grind".
The game isn't going anywhere anytime soon and there are always people around to run stuff. What's the rush? Take things at a decent, organized pace.

[Canadane]

Most can infer just based on the title what this is going to be about, but after spending hours and hours with nothing to show for it, I needed to vent. The current system of acquiring 99 totems to purchase a mount from any of the EX trials is absolutely ridiculous and a clear indicator from SE that they do not care about your personal time.

This is an MMO.
Not a pickup and play game.

[DrWho2010]

it's not a matter of discouragement, it's a matter of how badly you want to flex that you got something before everyone else can get it easier.

[Deveryn]

it's not a matter of discouragement, it's a matter of how badly you want to flex that you got something before everyone else can get it easier.

AKA a personal choice, as I mentioned.

Luck is not a flex. If any mount in this game is a flex, it's one of the Feast rewards. Anything else is eventually obtainable.

[lolicon09]

"The current system of acquiring 99 totems to purchase a mount from any of the EX trials is absolutely ridiculous and a clear indicator from SE that they do not care about your personal time"

By the time the mount becomes available to buy with Totems, you can easily get those 99 totems casually, without doing the same Duty nonstop every day. Source? I just for my 99 Umbral totems today, without doing the Duty many times every day

[Hypn0tyk]

Personally I think the mount should not drop at all and we should be able to buy it for 99 totems right away.

I don't think you should be able to short-circuit many hours because you got lucky in your first few clears. If anything have a random chance for extra totems so you can still get lucky and speed up getting to 99. Maybe let us desynth the weapons into totems. I think 2-totem fights are good, but the fact you can't buy the mount until several patches later is still a bit awkward.

The fact that somebody can do 99x the work of somebody else and get a worse result could be made a bit less silly. As of right now, primal mounts are just a sign of how lucky a player is.