Mount Farming and the 99 Totem Issue

[chaotix69]

Most can infer just based on the title what this is going to be about, but after spending hours and hours with nothing to show for it, I needed to vent. The current system of acquiring 99 totems to purchase a mount from any of the EX trials is absolutely ridiculous and a clear indicator from SE that they do not care about your personal time. I am currently in the endgame right now and like every patch, once you complete the raids there is nothing to do except go back and try to acquire the things you missed in previous expansions, mounts being one of them.

Now I am fine with the PF and I understand that obtaining a mount from any of these EX trials is intended to be a rare reward. However, when you have ran it 50, 60, 70 times and continue to walk away empty handed while others get lucky enough to obtain it their first try, it diminishes the incentive to even try. What makes it worse, is that if you're someone who has consistent bad luck, then your only option is to do the same trial 99 times.... or 50 times for those that award 2x totems. This is ridiculous and whats worse is that it is a practice that is defended. Why does the totem count need to be 99? Why not 50? Why not something reasonable?

What makes it worse is that many players defend it, either because they acquired the mount early on, slogged through the trial 99 times and feel everyone else should suffer like they did, or just generally enjoy wasting away countless hours of their life on one instance. The gatekeeping by this game's community needs to stop. Not even having a FC fixed the issue because no one wants to help out with anything, or most FCs are filled with player bases that are still in the leveling process or just craft non-stop. (from my experience at least).

Make the damn totem requirement 50. At least then it becomes more bearable. Who cares if more people end up with the mount. Your time should be rewarded, not taken advantage of, cause you can never get it back.

tldr; mount drop rates suck! 99x totem requirement suck! Make it 50.

[Moonfish]

I’ve been farming extreme mounts since late HW and I’ve had more than my fair share of 99+ grind. I’ve been saying for years that it’s absolutely ridiculous and you’re too right about people here defending the grind.

“You are lucky, I remember when there was no totem trade in!” So what? It’s 2022, the game is like 10 years old. Be better, SE.

[Deceptus]

I’ve been farming extreme mounts since late HW and I’ve had more than my fair share of 99+ grind. I’ve been saying for years that it’s absolutely ridiculous and you’re too right about people here defending the grind.

“You are lucky, I remember when there was no totem trade in!” So what? It’s 2022, the game is like 10 years old. Be better, SE.

Definitely think after an expansion they should either increase the totem drop rate to 2 per encounter or drop the cost by half.

There's something about it being 99 no matter what. It's a nice implementation to try to fix the "long tail" of bad odds and just how random numbers work.

Notice that some of the "harder" ones drop 2 totems? How about if that became the general fix?

Lets just ... bloat... the concept of harder, make more of them drop 2 at once.

Course, on the other hand, keeping completionists playing the game is kind of the point of the game, if more people get the rewards faster, less people who actually know the fights will be there to teach others, and this will actually make the fights even harder.

It's an intersting tossup, aint it?

At a certain point with unsync difficulty becomes meaningless. I was helping someone get their mount today and Suzaku was dropping in 2 min. 30s of that was her phase change.

[ICountFrom0]

There's something about it being 99 no matter what. It's a nice implementation to try to fix the "long tail" of bad odds and just how random numbers work.

Notice that some of the "harder" ones drop 2 totems? How about if that became the general fix?

Lets just ... bloat... the concept of harder, make more of them drop 2 at once.

Course, on the other hand, keeping completionists playing the game is kind of the point of the game, if more people get the rewards faster, less people who actually know the fights will be there to teach others, and this will actually make the fights even harder.

It's an intersting tossup, aint it?

At a certain point with unsync difficulty becomes meaningless. I was helping someone get their mount today and Suzaku was dropping in 2 min. 30s of that was her phase change.

If you think that has anything to do with what I said you might want to re-read what I said, or I guess I could explain again?


Lets try this again.

If you require everybody who wants the mount, but isn't lucky, to run the trial 99 times vs them needing to run it 50 times, that's 49 more times that the person who needs the mount will be in a trial while knowing what to do, and being able to instruct others on how to do the raid. 49 more times they can be forced to teach the new incoming player who has never done it before how to do it.

They might not have to every time, but they are forced to be there by circumstances.

This gives squenix a collection of free teachers that will be there doing the ex trials.

It's like how the mentor roulette forces somebody into the experience who knows what to do if things go horribly wrong for long enough.

[technole]

It's not YoshiP's fault you are hooked on cosmetics.

[chaotix69]

This is exactly what im referring to when I mention the community just refusing to acknowledge there is a problem.

[Moonfish]

This is exactly what im referring to when I mention the community just refusing to acknowledge there is a problem.

Didn’t take them long to get here.

[Kolsykol]

This is exactly what im referring to when I mention the community just refusing to acknowledge there is a problem.

People are allowed to disagree with you, get over yourself.
Some people legit do enjoy the grinds because it's something to do long-term with an actual goal in mind it's not that crazy.

And then people complain when all mounts are too easy to get too and become too common because they lose their '' status '', this isn't some black or white issue.
Just because people have a different perspective than you on something doesn't mean that they're '' refusing to acknowledge there is a problem '', they're just disagreeing on whether it's a problem or not.
Just because you say and feel like it is doesn't make it some objective fact that it is.

Edit: Also maybe it's just a coincidence, but hmm why are there suddenly so many male Elezen coming out making multiple negative threads ( especially loaded with the '' gcbtw '' meme ) after the Dragonflight Alpha went live.
Jokes aside, funny coincidence huh.

[RocciaSolida]

It's honestly one of the best systems in place, better than most other MMORPGs. Fairly low chances of the mount dropping but you have a parachute, you're pretty much guaranteed to get your mount because you can trade in your tokens.

P.S. Another titanmen alt?

[DixieBellOCE]

It's honestly one of the best systems in place, better then most other MMORPGs. Fairly low chances of the mount dropping but you have a parachute, you're pretty much guaranteed to get your mount because you can trade in your tokens.

P.S. Another titanmen alt?

And not timegated to 1 kill per week like most other MMO's.

You can do 1 kill a day and have the 99 totems by the time the next patch drops.

People are just complaining about nothing.