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    Ash Kechum
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    Gladiator Lv 90

    Mount Farming and the 99 Totem Issue

    Most can infer just based on the title what this is going to be about, but after spending hours and hours with nothing to show for it, I needed to vent. The current system of acquiring 99 totems to purchase a mount from any of the EX trials is absolutely ridiculous and a clear indicator from SE that they do not care about your personal time. I am currently in the endgame right now and like every patch, once you complete the raids there is nothing to do except go back and try to acquire the things you missed in previous expansions, mounts being one of them.

    Now I am fine with the PF and I understand that obtaining a mount from any of these EX trials is intended to be a rare reward. However, when you have ran it 50, 60, 70 times and continue to walk away empty handed while others get lucky enough to obtain it their first try, it diminishes the incentive to even try. What makes it worse, is that if you're someone who has consistent bad luck, then your only option is to do the same trial 99 times.... or 50 times for those that award 2x totems. This is ridiculous and whats worse is that it is a practice that is defended. Why does the totem count need to be 99? Why not 50? Why not something reasonable?

    What makes it worse is that many players defend it, either because they acquired the mount early on, slogged through the trial 99 times and feel everyone else should suffer like they did, or just generally enjoy wasting away countless hours of their life on one instance. The gatekeeping by this game's community needs to stop. Not even having a FC fixed the issue because no one wants to help out with anything, or most FCs are filled with player bases that are still in the leveling process or just craft non-stop. (from my experience at least).

    Make the damn totem requirement 50. At least then it becomes more bearable. Who cares if more people end up with the mount. Your time should be rewarded, not taken advantage of, cause you can never get it back.

    tldr; mount drop rates suck! 99x totem requirement suck! Make it 50.
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    Autumn Stardust
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    Sage Lv 100
    I’ve been farming extreme mounts since late HW and I’ve had more than my fair share of 99+ grind. I’ve been saying for years that it’s absolutely ridiculous and you’re too right about people here defending the grind.

    “You are lucky, I remember when there was no totem trade in!” So what? It’s 2022, the game is like 10 years old. Be better, SE.
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    Thea Sitori
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    It's not YoshiP's fault you are hooked on cosmetics.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    The latest trial is actually 50 (clears) and 2 others have been so before it.

    It's not just about the mount though. You're also gearing up, starting with accessories and then moving on to weapons. You win some. You lose some. You have ample time to do it. If you don't like it, you can always just wait on it. Everything in previous expansions goes much faster and by that time the drop rate has increased by whatever piddly amount. On the moogle tome events, they'll have one or two you might have missed.

    tldr; no pressure
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    This is exactly what im referring to when I mention the community just refusing to acknowledge there is a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaotix69 View Post
    This is exactly what im referring to when I mention the community just refusing to acknowledge there is a problem.
    Didn’t take them long to get here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    The latest trial is actually 50 (clears) and 2 others have been so before it.

    It's not just about the mount though. You're also gearing up, starting with accessories and then moving on to weapons. You win some. You lose some. You have ample time to do it. If you don't like it, you can always just wait on it. Everything in previous expansions goes much faster and by that time the drop rate has increased by whatever piddly amount. On the moogle tome events, they'll have one or two you might have missed.

    tldr; no pressure
    I understand that. I am in no way complaining about having to farm for gear, weapons etc. However, there is a clear difference between grabbing a weapon and obtaining the mount. With the weapon coffers now, that process is incredibly easy and not time consuming at all. The main point I am addressing is the mount being essentially time gated behind running the trial 99 times. The latest trial is 50, you're right. But that trial also takes a while to run.
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    Fenix Starfire
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    Midgardsormr
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    I was only interested in my Kamuy's. Suzaku took me 181 tries before I finally got her mount. Seiryu took me 118. I gave up on Zodiark after 108. I really don't want to waste anymore time on such tedious shit. Also, when will I be able to buy Zodiark's mount?
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    It's not YoshiP's fault you are hooked on cosmetics.
    Its also not Yoshi P's fault the game is riddled with subscription eating time sinks
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaotix69 View Post
    This is exactly what im referring to when I mention the community just refusing to acknowledge there is a problem.
    People are allowed to disagree with you, get over yourself.
    Some people legit do enjoy the grinds because it's something to do long-term with an actual goal in mind it's not that crazy.

    And then people complain when all mounts are too easy to get too and become too common because they lose their '' status '', this isn't some black or white issue.
    Just because people have a different perspective than you on something doesn't mean that they're '' refusing to acknowledge there is a problem '', they're just disagreeing on whether it's a problem or not.
    Just because you say and feel like it is doesn't make it some objective fact that it is.

    Edit: Also maybe it's just a coincidence, but hmm why are there suddenly so many male Elezen coming out making multiple negative threads ( especially loaded with the '' gcbtw '' meme ) after the Dragonflight Alpha went live.
    Jokes aside, funny coincidence huh.
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