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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by anguel View Post
    obviously there would be a hard limit in place
    How do you place a hard limit on bad luck protection when it's players competing against players, and the number of players involved each time changes?

    Let me change the number in my example. Let's say you have 150 different players who have maxed out their chance of winning at 20%. There's still only one plot available. The 20% chance becomes useless because you're still competing against 149 others.

    The only way to improve a player's chances of winning is to reduce the number of players competing against each other.
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The only way to improve a player's chances of winning is to reduce the number of players competing against each other.
    This. And because players don't want to have to get more gil, camp at a placard, take time off work to be first or do anything beyond bidding, they asked for a fairer lottery system, yet for some reason are now trying to find arbitrary ways to exclude other players without doing anything significant that would differentiate them from other players. So much for fairness, huh?
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    This. And because players don't want to have to get more gil, camp at a placard, take time off work to be first or do anything beyond bidding, they asked for a fairer lottery system, yet for some reason are now trying to find arbitrary ways to exclude other players without doing anything significant that would differentiate them from other players. So much for fairness, huh?
    Many of us who were proponents for the Lottery, KNEW that our chances of getting a plot would become much lower. We still advocated for the Lottery anyway because our guiding principle was that EVERYONE should have the same chance as others of getting a plot. All many of us wanted was a fair system, even if it meant our own chances greatly diminished.
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    Kyssa Kha
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Many of us who were proponents for the Lottery, KNEW that our chances of getting a plot would become much lower. We still advocated for the Lottery anyway because our guiding principle was that EVERYONE should have the same chance as others of getting a plot. All many of us wanted was a fair system, even if it meant our own chances greatly diminished.
    I never thought our family (my husband and kids play) would ever get anything but a small for our FC and we were fine with that, but if we could, we wanted to get something bigger to decorate and play with. We'd placard clicked for our homes and were thrilled with the lottery eliminating that madness. Cycle #6 we put one bid in on a LB large and won. We were shocked, giddy and over the moon, because we knew the odds were against us since we only bid once.

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    Last edited by Kyssa; 07-23-2022 at 02:13 AM. Reason: screenshots because it happened.

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    Anguel Wyvern
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    Shinryu
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    omg plot 58 one of the most beautifull plot in the game !!!!!
    congrats !
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    Kyssa Kha
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by anguel View Post
    omg plot 58 one of the most beautifull plot in the game !!!!!
    congrats !
    Thank you! We've spent many hours decorating so far and still have a whole floor and a half to go!

    Everyone will be represented in the final product and we hope to spend many years enjoying it.
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The only way to improve a player's chances of winning is to reduce the number of players competing against each other.
    That's true for characters, but not players.
    Last lottery, I (one player) entered 8 times in the lottery for one small plot, using the 8 housing-qualified characters on my account [on that world]. My odds of winning were 8X better than a player that only entered once: 18% instead of 2.3%.

    I won, BTW.
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    Anguel Wyvern
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    That's true for characters, but not players.
    Last lottery, I (one player) entered 8 times in the lottery for one small plot, using the 8 housing-qualified characters on my account [on that world]. My odds of winning were 8X better than a player that only entered once: 18% instead of 2.3%.

    I won, BTW.
    yes but that house now belong to an alt right ?, how do you transfer ownership to your main ?
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by anguel View Post
    yes but that house now belong to an alt right ?, how do you transfer ownership to your main ?
    You can't but doesn't change the fact that you own a house. Which is why people like the one above you put in multiple entries to try to shift the odds in their favor. The point is to get one.


    Unless it's an FC then it can be transferred.
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by anguel View Post
    yes but that house now belong to an alt right ?, how do you transfer ownership to your main ?
    Depends on what you mean by "alt."

    For all things housing related, the character that won the lottery instantly became my "main" housing character.

    I have another character that's my main glamour character, a main mentor character so I can get my friends that 20% XP boost when we run together, a main crafting and gathering character, and a main experience-the-MSL-slowly character, a main running-a-popoto-is-hilarious character and so on.

    Alt-vs-main is an arbitrary and somewhat meaningless distinction, especially when you have more than one character that's at endgame and/or has all crafters and/or gatherers to 90.
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