So, what now? Lotteries with 150+ bids until... when?

[EZGIL]

So, to like... state the obvious, every lottery from here on out is going to be very long odds of winning.

Like... 150-1 odds or much worse.

Is this really the system you envisioned to 'solve' the housing problems? How exactly is this better than clicking a placard against FAR LESS than 150-1 odds.... or worse.

How about keep adding wards to every housing district until its nowhere close to 150 or more people bidding on a single plot. Whats the excuse... spaghetti database issues? I'm not asking for a plot for everyone but 150, or worse, bidding on a single lot... shouldnt be left as the standard either.

[ameliaw]

Placard clicking didn't suck that much tbh. I got my personal without botting, and honestly there was no need to camp plots for several hours like people say, as long as you were informed enough about it. Sure it was shit, but lottery is worse. Those who REALLY wanted a house and were willing to put some effort had a huge advantage.
There's only one real fix to this now: instanced housing.

[Striker44]

This! I've said this before and I will say it again: I started playing in 2019 and camped my first cottage as a Sprout totally alone, literally no one else showed up! I got the plot without competition after a few hours and I didn't even have to spam-click the placard. There were PLENTY of other available plots!! The problem is that the playerbase got bigger but we barely got new wards! The lottery will never fix the supply & demand issue.

I feel like the lottery system isn't designed to fix the supply and demand issue, but rather even the playing field for getting a house given the low supply vs. demand. It discourages the camping a board for hours that isn't exactly healthy.

[dapperfaffer]

I feel like the lottery system isn't designed to fix the supply and demand issue, but rather even the playing field for getting a house given the low supply vs. demand. It discourages the camping a board for hours that isn't exactly healthy.

this.
housing is supposed to be limited and prestigious. its been that way since housing was first implemented.

[Jojoya]

this.
housing is supposed to be limited and prestigious. its been that way since housing was first implemented.

Official SE citation needed.

I walked up to a house with no bidders, paid and got it the next day. Same with my friend who is now my neighbour. The supply is not enough but the current system is vastly superior to the old one.

And just what year and world did this happen?

I won't deny that it was much easier to get a house at certain times in the past but that was because the supply was meeting or exceeding demand.

Those days are gone. The player base has quadrupled in size while we've only gotten a 40% increase in the number of houses. The demand far exceeds the supply, not the other way around.

Going back to placard spam means so many players camping the same placard that you won't be able to see them all. We already had that happening last year even on Goblet smalls.

It also would bring back the RMT sellers and their click bots in droves. The current system can't stop RMT but it has curtailed it.

[Sairys]

this.
housing is supposed to be limited and prestigious. its been that way since housing was first implemented.

Not really, Housing was implemented for FCs only in 2.1. There were 3 districts and 12 wards so space for 1080 FCs in the early days of the game and, afaik, there was more than enough for that purpose so that every FC could get one.

It was later updated to include personal use in patch 2.38 and Yoshi-P has been apologising for the lack of availability since that day.

The system could be prestigious if it were something you actually earn, but right now there's nothing "prestigious" about owning a house in FFXIV because those that do just got lucky. If people with plots think that makes them admirable then the actual word for that would be pretentious.

[Puksi]

this.
housing is supposed to be limited and prestigious. its been that way since housing was first implemented.

Funny they never mention that when they advertise it as a feature of the game. Also, imagine thinking pixels are "prestigious".

[Aethoren]

Let's just go back to first come first serve, and turn auto demo back on. Houses can be relinquished then bought immediately. Yes it made a grey market, but people are buying them with gil/rmt anyway, difference now is that those houses go unused for longer. At least with the first come, first serve, the phantom guilds with 10 people who are all alts can't get an edge bidding.