So, what now? Lotteries with 150+ bids until... when?

[LianaThorne]

Well to be fair, I did call it both abuse and torture. And I stand by it, it was an absolutely inhumane system, it's going to wreck anyone to stand there spamming a placard nonstop for 16 hours straight, and most likely still not get it. And I know there's people that wanted a house bad enough that they've done it.

I know the devs said that you weren't supposed to stand there spamming the placard for hours but what else was going to happen? People go click on it once or twice, shrug and leave? Everyone's sure getting a house that way. It was just another one of those utterly baffling development decisions that they must have made in some sort of bubble without any feedback from the actual players as I can guarantee not a single person in the dev team went through that.

Your first mistake was spamming a placard for 16 hours.
Second was thinking lottery is any better than placard spamming. Excluding clicking a placard/having more time to play the game, what exactly is better? Cause the odds are definitely not in your favor unless you're going for an FC or taking advantage of a new server/DC.

[Sheriyana]

Your first mistake was spamming a placard for 16 hours.
Second was thinking lottery is any better than placard spamming. Excluding clicking a placard/having more time to play the game, what exactly is better? Cause the odds are definitely not in your favor unless you're going for an FC or taking advantage of a new server/DC.

I have not done it myself, I gave up on a lot of plots because I didn't want to sacrifice my sanity for it, but I still did it for hours on multiple plots and even that was too much. But that's what the system encouraged people to do, you don't know when the plot is going to open so you just have to sit there spamming the placard. Genius argument, exclude the advocating for terrible gaming habits and wasting your time on the most mundane and painful "gameplay" possible. Of course the placard spamming had better odds if you happened to be there when the plot opened, but you can't exactly exclude what made the system awful to make it look better in comparison to the lottery system. Of course you had better odds with the system that made you sit there for hours to have any consistent odds at the plot, people weren't willing to do it because it was a horrible waste of their time.

Not to mention that you could sit there for hours on end just for some douche to relocate their house there, making everyone feel like idiots for wasting their time and ever bothering. I don't know what you are smoking with these arguments. That system was absolute garbage and I'm glad it's gone and never coming back.

[Renalt]

So, to like... state the obvious, every lottery from here on out is going to be very long odds of winning.

Like... 150-1 odds or much worse.

Is this really the system you envisioned to 'solve' the housing problems? How exactly is this better than clicking a placard against FAR LESS than 150-1 odds.... or worse.

How about keep adding wards to every housing district until its nowhere close to 150 or more people bidding on a single plot. Whats the excuse... spaghetti database issues? I'm not asking for a plot for everyone but 150, or worse, bidding on a single lot... shouldnt be left as the standard either.

It's better than camping out there for over 24 hours straight and constantly spamming the buy plot button over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over over and over and over....

only for a person who already has a home to just click it once to move the plot.

It was a step forward...but it was the tiniest of steps.

[Reinha]

I remember telling the Novice Network and my fc how there are about 20 plots in Goblet in patch 5.1 when people were taking breaks and complaining about lack of content. Very few were interested, mostly because there was a chance they'd have to click. I finally went to one of the plots that had had it's price devalued by a significant amount, indicating that it had been freed up a while ago. Hit the placard and just bought it because the random timer had finished. No one else around. I later relocated to a better location. Easy and guaranteed, and this is not even a low pop server.

I preferred the old system to a lottery for obvious reasons. Now people don't even have to check plots every day, which increases competition by rewarding passive players. Also can't choose to relocate to a nice spot if you get there first. At the very least auto demolish needs to come back so these players who can get a house by barely logging in will actually have to care about their house if they want to keep it. Thankfully free companies are able to get theirs pretty painlessly without having to engage in this garbage lotto every week for years.

[Bukachu]

Ill hopefully be bidding on my first lottery in this rotation, if you see me on TV news within the week you know why

[Arcadious]

The number of people in this thread defending the old system is mind boggling. Any system that would encourage people to neglect their personal health in order to win a house is pretty obviously unethical.

The only point any of them have is that before you could, through great acts of neckbeardery, improve your chances. Which is true, but it makes you look pretty bad.

Any anecdotes (too many in this thread to quote) claiming they just walked up to a placard and casually purchased a plot can be dismissed as either trolling or, much less likely, dumb luck.

[Stormpeaks]

The number of people in this thread defending the old system is mind boggling. Any system that would encourage people to neglect their personal health in order to win a house is pretty obviously unethical.

The only point any of them have is that before you could, through great acts of neckbeardery, improve your chances. Which is true, but it makes you look pretty bad.

Any anecdotes (too many in this thread to quote) claiming they just walked up to a placard and casually purchased a plot can be dismissed as either trolling or, much less likely, dumb luck.

Oh no! Working 2 hours a day to get a house, the drama !

[Sheriyana]

Oh no! Working 2 hours a day to get a house, the drama !

You have to be just trolling at this point. If you only stood at a plot for 2 hours a day you'd have to be lucky to even see the plot open, let alone have a chance at actually buying it.

[Stormpeaks]

You have to be just trolling at this point. If you only stood at a plot for 2 hours a day you'd have to be lucky to even see the plot open, let alone have a chance at actually buying it.

I am not trolling, all you had to do was go there in prime time, which was from 12 to 14 hrs in the timer, and plots were reported on the housing discord at the time they came up. If you didnt look there, there's your mistake.

[Sheriyana]

I am not trolling, all you had to do was go there in prime time, which was from 12 to 14 hrs in the timer, and plots were reported on discord at the time they came up. If you didnt look there, there's your mistake.

What? You think everyone should be forced to be on some random discord to keep track of houses and that's a good system somehow? Even if you did that, more often than not you'd have someone come and relocate their house there anyway.