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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Only odd numbered versions of windows ever seem to be worth using.

    Original windows (version 3.11 and prior) windows 3 (windows 98), windows 5 (windows XP), windows 7.
    I was gonna keep quiet, but this comment made me speak up. What exactly is the advantage of windows 8 over windows 7 on a desktop without a touchscreen? It's my understanding that W8 has huge advances in usability for tablet PCs, but what advantages does it have for non-tablet PCs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I was gonna keep quiet, but this comment made me speak up. What exactly is the advantage of windows 7 over windows 8 on a desktop without a touchscreen? It's my understanding that W8 has huge advances in usability for tablet PCs, but what advantages does it have for non-tablet PCs?
    Windows 8 uses about 30% less system resources than Windows 7. I know a lot of people aren't that into the metro interface, but it is a lot faster than the last version in almost every way... including FFXIV performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ark_mage2 View Post
    Windows 8 uses about 30% less system resources than Windows 7. I know a lot of people aren't that into the metro interface, but it is a lot faster than the last version in almost every way... including FFXIV performance.
    I'm not sure about that 30% number, and it looks like (at least for the moment) gaming performance it not quite up to what it is in windows 7.

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/w...chmarked/19927
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I was gonna keep quiet, but this comment made me speak up. What exactly is the advantage of windows 8 over windows 7 on a desktop without a touchscreen? It's my understanding that W8 has huge advances in usability for tablet PCs, but what advantages does it have for non-tablet PCs?
    I don't know, that's why I made the comment. I've been told there are a lot of back-end (performance, resource management) improvements. Beyond that, I hadn't really heard much about win8 at all.

    the original design of Windows (1) worked for the time. windows 95 was a stripped down badly butchered NT (2), 98 was much better (3), ME was LOL (4), XP was the biggest improvement to windows in a long time (5), Vista was terrible (6) Windows 7 made it a lot better (7) and now Windows 8.... well, we'll see if it breaks the pattern.
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    I wouldn't call a game that crashes every time UAC wants something from you compatible. Lucky 2.0 should fix that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deatheye View Post
    I wouldn't call a game that crashes every time UAC wants something from you compatible. Lucky 2.0 should fix that.
    so does windowed mode, fyi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    so does windowed mode, fyi.
    UAC crashes can be avoided by disabling the 'secure desktop" (called dimming the desktop in win7) which causes UAC prompts to appear on the normal desktop instead. The secure desktop makes real, official windows prompts and warnings easier to distinguish from fakes by placing them on the dimmed screen which only the OS can access. But largely because it's on by default, i've never seen or heard of any malware that makes fake UAC prompts appear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    so does windowed mode, fyi.
    fyi maybe people should stop talking about stuff and present it as facts when they never did it themself?
    IT does not. At least not on Windows 8 and that's what we are talking about.
    I'm running it in Windowed mode and it crashes with that stupod device lost error message everytime I try to run an executable.
    If you are talking about a third party windower, thats another topic and you should have specified that. I'm talking about the integrated function to run the game in windowed mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deatheye View Post
    fyi maybe people should stop talking about stuff and present it as facts when they never did it themself?
    IT does not. At least not on Windows 8 and that's what we are talking about.
    I'm running it in Windowed mode and it crashes with that stupod device lost error message everytime I try to run an executable.
    If you are talking about a third party windower, thats another topic and you should have specified that. I'm talking about the integrated function to run the game in windowed mode.
    Hmmm, I haven't had an issue like that in ages. Perhaps there's a rescource conflict with that executable you're trying to run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Hmmm, I haven't had an issue like that in ages. Perhaps there's a rescource conflict with that executable you're trying to run.
    Really? I'm having it everytime I download something and execute it. UAC brings up a blue bar asking for execution of the file and you cant use any other interface till you answer it. It's no problem with installed stuff.
    On windows 7 I deactivated UAC, but Windows 8 needs it activated or a lot of stuff doesn't work anymore.
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