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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmpelioB View Post
    like, c'mon I won't complain about alisaie and alphinaud because they are siblings but then there's urianger and estinien too, thats quite too much for me.
    and almost 10 years of ARR the only roegadyn to ever join the main cast literally died on the same "episode"
    Hoary Boulder and his brother Ocher would disagree about Roegadyn.

    Enjoy this link to an actual list of notable and other members of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn ... you've met every single one of them if you were paying any attention from ARR to EW. [source: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki...e_Seventh_Dawn

    You will note that only four of the 17 members listed under the term 'notable' are Elezen. There are 21 "other" members, not to mention the 17 listed "Allied" groups and inviduals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Hoary Boulder and his brother Ocher would disagree about Roegadyn.

    Enjoy this link to an actual list of notable and other members of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn ... you've met every single one of them if you were paying any attention from ARR to EW. [source: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki..._Seventh_Dawn]

    You will note that only four of the 17 members listed under the term 'notable' are Elezen. There are 21 "other" members, not to mention the 17 listed "Allied" groups and inviduals.
    *only one Roe*
    *She got crystal'd*

    T-Thanks Yoshida... ;_;
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    ...


    I managed to create red hair on Highlander that looked rly good imo.



    It seems to be harder on some races tho like Elezen and Roegadyn, their haircolors seem to be more washed out.
    I wish we had a slider for colors with the whole spectrum.



    It's funny tho how common Elezen are meant to be and how rare they are with the players lol, and also how much more common Viera are than they are meant to be canonically.
    I wonder if the white or blonde hair may have had a reason originally tho, maybe it was intended to be some kind of a sign that someone had been chosen by Hydaelyn or something but it was scrapped.
    If I'm not mistaken, they adressed about this color problem in a live letter (I think... 2018 or maybe 2019...). So, they can't make a full spectrum slider for hair colors because there is a limitation to that on the game engine.

    Like I said in some random posts here: we need a better engine to solve all our problems. From visuals to housing, to reporting system, we could definitely receive a revised and better engine capable of solving all the problems this game have. I know: they will never do that. But a person can dream, right?

    So, we have to use those washed up reds for our hairs in some hairstyles 'til sea swallows all u.u
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, they adressed about this color problem in a live letter (I think... 2018 or maybe 2019...). So, they can't make a full spectrum slider for hair colors because there is a limitation to that on the game engine.

    Like I said in some random posts here: we need a better engine to solve all our problems. From visuals to housing, to reporting system, we could definitely receive a revised and better engine capable of solving all the problems this game have. I know: they will never do that. But a person can dream, right?

    So, we have to use those washed up reds for our hairs in some hairstyles 'til sea swallows all u.u
    lol, there is no "limitation on the game engine". That's PR talk and SE's favorite free lunch card for anything that might require them to have some more money invested into actually developing the game rather than furthering the monetization of it. It is absolutely possible to have any hair color you want within the engine. They just don't want to update character creation with new swatches, or ideally, give us an actual RGB palette like every other game made in the last ~5 years. Like, it's 2022 and we STILL only have one layer for face paint/makeup. Give me a break.

    OT: The white hair thing is probably due to the Japanese trope of characters with white hair being considered either "alien" or special in some way, or being powerful. Being inhuman, essentially. All of the Scions that travel with the WoL would be considered to be exceptionally powerful characters within the lore, obviously.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with the races of the Scions. It's really just the most likely composition based on the lore and locations the Scions are from.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, they adressed about this color problem in a live letter (I think... 2018 or maybe 2019...). So, they can't make a full spectrum slider for hair colors because there is a limitation to that on the game engine.
    Yeah, and the fact that over half of the red options got overwritten by pink might have something to do with the limited options.
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    It is rather vexxing how their character creator has remained shit for as long as it has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    *only one Roe*
    *She got crystal'd*

    T-Thanks Yoshida... ;_;
    I'm assuming your responding to the OP here. I fixed the problem link.

    Moenbryda was the Roegadyn who joined us in ARR and forfeited her life for the greater good (killing an Ascian) during the same expansion.

    Hoary Boulder and Ocher Boulder have been members of the Scions who you've seen after the move to Revenants Toll. I remember carrying at least one Roegadyn for burial after the Titan incident in Vesper Bay (neither of them, by the way).

    The fun thing to remember is those who players tend to think of as "Scions" were, in fact, members of the Circle of Knowing who joined forces with Minfilia's own Path of the Twelve (comprised primarily of Echo users) to form the Scions of the Seventh Dawn ... the Seventh Umbral Era having begun after the descent of Dalamud and Bahamut's release.

    Members of the Circle of Knowing were Sharlayan Archons (an academic title with that cool tattoo) who followed Louisoix Leveilleur to Eorzea. They were a pretty varied group as well, but they are not the only "Scions" around.
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    FFXIV has final-fantasied so hard that it's made white haired characters the norm and dark/hazel haired characters exotic.
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    Part of the "problem" is that the Scions are an Eorzean-based organization, and all of the new races introduced post-2.0 hail from outside of Eorzea and so would logically be fewer in number there. We often get "exotic" characters that serve in supporting roles during expansions (Yugiri, Gosetsu, the Xaela tribes, Lyna, etc.) but the core Scions still being main characters means there's not really any openings. They could introduce new main characters without benching or killing any of the already-present Scions, but that could lead to a cast bloat I'd rather not see.

    Taking that into account though... I'm disappointed there's no "main" Roegadyn Scion, and other than Tataru (who is more of a supporting character, especially in Shadowbringers and Endwalker) no main Lalafell Scion either after Papalymo's passing. Also wish they'd give more Viera and Hrothgar characters speaking roles, but alas.

    ... but why so many Elezen (elves)? Well, everybody loves elves. I mean, just look at the myriad variety of them in Dungeons and Dragons! (Apropos of which, it also has rough analogues to both Viera and Hrothgar... but both were only introduced recently and are nowhere near as popular as elves.)

    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    FFXIV has final-fantasied so hard that it's made white haired characters the norm and dark/hazel haired characters exotic.
    I think part of it is that white hair stands out and so is used to denote someone "important" or "mystical," and part that white hair makes color coordinating an outfit way easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    We have tons of options for hair colors, they should visit the aesthetician more often u.u
    Shame you can't change hair color with the aesthetician, that's why all of them have different tones of white hair and they don't visit that guy often.
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