Am i really the only one that dislike Yoshi-P ?

[Vahlnir]

- "Being a customer doesn't entitle you to behave however you want.", true but at the same time there's a balance to be struck between the company, the product and the guy consuming the product. And expecting people to just constantly take lower and lower quality without complaint is ludicrous. And when the consumer complains, you might want to look into the complaint. Ignoring it doesn't really help. Wanna know how we know this? 1.0 EXISTED. I wonder why it no longer does... hmm, must have been a fluke of time. Square TOTALLY wasn't scared of having a mainline title fail as tremendously as it was about to.
- A lot of people say he's above criticism just because he saved the game from the 1.0 hellhole. Maybe take a closer look at the fanbase you're in. In fact, just look at page 1, there's one such comment literally right there!
- "How do you know it's excuses"? idk sis, because when he said "it's too hard" to Hrothgar hairstyles rather than the actual reason for why they're not doing hairs with ears, people dissected it for him? He could have said literally anything else, and it'd have been far better than "it's too hard". It's not hard, he has the time and he has the resources, he's not allocating them at all. This game is, by his own words, following a very specific structure where stuff is planned out in phases way before anything's even done. You cannot tell me he couldn't have found the time and resources to pull it off when amateurs did so in a single day. If there ARE reasons, then he should say so. But claiming it to be hard? That's an excuse.
- MMO Balance works in different ways all across eachother, and there's a whole context to why FF14 is this balanced. With a lot of people even going so far as to say that the exchange for balance was novelty and uniqueness
- Cute you'd care for the content and overhauls, but a) do we need quantity or quality? You know what, just ask the healers who "overreacted" when he told them to go play Ultimate, and b) if past overhauls are anything to go by, that doesn't exactly translate into something worth being excited over. Just ask SAM mains, people who actually do have high parses in their class (something you actually need attention and care about) and said their piece about it, only to be ignored.

...ok so how much are you clutching that White Knight job stone, girlie? I think it's time to let it go, take a breather, it's good for you.

Like, okay I get it, it's not that bad. Which, sure, it isn't. There IS a lot to praise the devs and the game over. But it's also not all fragrant roses and rainbows, you need to wake the hell up and admit when enough is enough. Your Dev Thirst is honestly just going to get in the way.

A bit harsh in places, though not entirely undeserved, but this is basically how I feel about SE the FF XIV team right now. They get a lot of things right, which makes their failures that much more surprising. I know they can do better, and that's what I want from them. To do better.

[Neoyoshi]

The way he asks the players to be nice and not to say nasty things.

It's normal that there are angry players because of the many problems in the game, I think it's ridiculous to cry because some people don't mince their words.

It's borderline threatening if you ever get a little angry at Yoshi and his team
I think it's a total inversion of values, we pay for the game with our money but we have absolutely no rights, we are the ones who should be respectful and grateful even though we are the customers

The customer is no longer the king, the customer is no longer respected and listened to

What's your suggestion then? Ask Yoshi-P to stop being Japanese?

[Midareyukki]

A bit harsh in places, though not entirely undeserved, but this is basically how I feel about SE the FF XIV team right now. They get a lot of things right, which makes their failures that much more surprising. I know they can do better, and that's what I want from them. To do better.

Is it harsh? If so, GOOD. I just have zero patience for this community. People cling to the devs like children, it's embarrassing! Just admit they aren't the sweet angels y'all wish they were and move on.

I do like this dev team and I do know when to sing it praises. There is A LOT of content I enjoy to this day, and though I don't fully agree with the direction taken with the plot, it still got to me. Because I can take something that's very clearly flawed and still enjoy it. Otherwise I wouldn't be playing the race I play.

But holy hell, after seeing what doing it once will do, how far people will stretch it, and how hard the community slaps you for saying one piece of negative criticism toward the devs? I'm not gonna do it anytime soon.

People just need to wake up from that honeymoon phase and admit "Okay, defending the devs after all these things HAVE happened and promptly deny them isn't good". Not for they themselves, for the dev team, for the product, and it's disrespectful for those impacted by those situations. Because even if you enjoy the game and would still die hard for the devs, it's not fair that your experience gets handwaved just because White Knight over there decides to ignore basic logic and sanity just to cling to this image that the devs can do no harm.

[Arazehl]

To be fair, we were told that Viera and Hrothgar would get their own unique hairstyles all the way back in 2019. Apparently, that plan has changed. Yoshi P can feign ignorance all he wants, but he said what he said, and now he has to deal with the fallout over going back on it.

To be more fair in 2019 we were told "No more new Races". That female Viera and Hrothgar were the last.

YoshiP stated in 2019 "In a Fan Festival keynote speech, I stated that this will likely be the last time we add new playable races to FFXIV. To put it simply, a tremendous amount of time and resources are required to develop one. I’m sure you all understand that a new race will require new faces, hairstyles, bodies, and other assets. In addition to this, they need to be capable of equipping all existing items—this alone requires a massive commitment of resources."

Now we have the male Viera and the plans for female Hrothgar. This indicates to me that he does try to listen and gives where and when he can. Goes to show you can't please everyone.

They even rolled out recently a few hairstyles for the new races. I have to admit some of them were ugly, and just didn't fit the races. I was expecting a few more unique styles for each race, more than already existing hairstyles. I think they rushed to try to please the demands of the player base I'd much prefer for the devs to take their time to produce pleasing results and not a rush job that this seemed to have been. There is just too many who want to jump to assumptions, while kicking and screaming. It's just not the way to go about it to get results and you're not going to get everything you want, all the time, so don't expect to.

[Midareyukki]

Everything really.

No one kicked and screamed. Frustration is one thing, but there is stuff to gleam from what happened that changed what Hrothgars started asking for. There are threads explaining what people want. Hrothgars got a dismissive excuse and didn't address the actual issues. Because got to a point where fans actually dissected the game assets and realized "Oh, okay, this could be a limitation for them". And they didn't say that, they just handwaved it.

The disrespect went both ways. Saying "it's too hard" is a non-answer; when amateurs can do the job in a singular night, it can't be ignored. What Hrothgars have already come out and asked for is for there to be a proper answer. And while we know it won't satisfy everyone, because someone will always have an immature reaction and claim they WANT IT NOOOOOWWWW, them explaining what the limitations actually are goes way further than just "it's too hard, didn't do it".

This is the issue with people who talk about the situation: they don't know about what happened.
And reducing the situation to "people who kick and scream and reach assumptions" shows a lack of understanding of the situation.
Please inform yourself.

Otherwise? You're right, and it's something people need to understand. We were told "No more new races". But then people asked a lot for Viera, and took the chance to also make Hrothgar of their own volition. Then they said "No headgear at all", but someone went and changed it. Then it was "no Male viera", and that was changed. Then it was "no hairstyles", and you saw what happened. But this leads into one other thing:

If they want to work off of feedback, then results don't show. They're working off of fan demand. Fan outcry for stuff. Not really working out of feedback. Just look what I said about limitations; now it's up to them to overcome those limits. And they can't keep adding stuff just because people ask without looking into what's feasible and what isn't. If he's going to say "No", then they should at least say why and in what way. Because otherwise, this ends up being a weird loop.

And those are expectations that just run rampant because they hear "we want X" and blindly add in X.

We're due Female Hrothgar at some point, and just merely asking for it blindly won't give anyone a good time. Especially not after April 1st. Because they're listening to demand, while fans likely have some expectations that need tempering.

"This alone requires a massive commitment of resources" isn't really a good answer either. EVERYTHING takes up resources, and a lot of things in the game take about as much as a Race can. This game is developped with phases in mind (Yoshida uses the correct term in his interview about why 1.0 failed, but I forgot which it was...). But the process they're using plans things well in advance. And by that time, you DO have to know how much time and resources you're going to need. It's planned before anything is even done, before anyone even sits at their desks and starts. And then it comes in phases. And that's where they assess the limitations. And from that came in the assumptions.

[SturmChurro]

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Hairs, unique hairs specifically, were already supposed to be on the way for viera/hrothgar. Three years ago. Right, he "forgot" he said they were going to get hairs, or it was "mistranslated"?

[Raoabolic]

What's your suggestion then? Ask Yoshi-P to stop being Japanese?

Well, he is the one that opened the game to the world. Personally, I wish he did a DQX on this game and we would not have these issues.

[Arazehl]

The disrespect went both ways. Saying "it's too hard" is a non-answer; when amateurs can do the job in a singular night, it can't be ignored. What Hrothgars have already come out and asked for is for there to be a proper answer. And while we know it won't satisfy everyone, because someone will always have an immature reaction and claim they WANT IT NOOOOOWWWW, them explaining what the limitations actually are goes way further than just "it's too hard, didn't do it".

This is the issue with people who talk about the situation: they don't know about what happened.
And reducing the situation to "people who kick and scream and reach assumptions" shows a lack of understanding of the situation.
Please inform yourself.

From a Viera pov, I get the demand for hairstyles, hats, ears that move and the lack, but show me where he says "too hard". Also show me this amateur who can roll out in one night the makings of a playable race and it fit into this game flawlessly. Maybe I missed that bulletin, but this is exactly how assumptions start and things get misguided, misinterpreted and spread. How can I get informed, as you say, when statements like these are made and far too often? I feel it should be base on what we know as fact, when we give our feedback, not what we assume we know. So please inform me.

[Arazehl]

Hairs, unique hairs specifically, were already supposed to be on the way for viera/hrothgar. Three years ago. Right, he "forgot" he said they were going to get hairs, or it was "mistranslated"?

Yeah I get that and it didn't turn out like that. It's exactly what I thought too when they released the existing hairstyles, and one reason I'm back to my old reliable Highlander.

[Shurrikhan]

Yoshi-P deserves to be cheered for the way he took a failure of an MMO and turned it into arguably the biggest success story of MMOs in history.

But, what went into that process?

• Split the capitals into two zones each, shrinking them down slightly.
• Replace about fives zones' worth of area to the three citystate zones, and make Gridania predominantly a generic yellow-brown forest, while turning Mor Dhona and Coerthas into a single zone each (instead of as large as the citystate zones).
• WoWify it, including World Quests (but we'll call them "FATEs" now).
• Add Limit Break gimmick.
• Retain earlier build-your-own-job themes only in the barest pretense, and for only a single expansion.
• Add one job, split two ways, in place of the previously roadmapped Flayer, Musketeer, and Shepherd.
• Play off the generic "villains in black robes" and "Summons are bad" tropes from the original game but ignore other precedented thematic threads of Eikon summoning, hoping for the best later.
• Hire a hopefully good writer to handle Heavensward and preemptively cover Coerthas in snow.
• Hire at least 4 people to work on the jobs. May or may not expand that number, ever.
• New raid. Allagans, Allagans, and more Allagans. Copy over FFXIII unit models for their units.

In terms of general leadership and managing personnel to get something actually finished, yeah, he likely did significant and positive work. And it's definitely appreciated.

In terms of creative vision, though... Well, what creative vision beyond "Don't be fancy; just get it done"? His 'vision' has seemingly always been safety and pragmatics first, cohesion, ambition, and polish maybe at some point.