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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxion View Post
    But the problem is that i mentioned several times is that they need to hire someone to mod the na forums proper. We didn't have one in a while that could consolidate the positive feed back. If you hop in the other forums you notice that they do it proper.

    Quick edit: Or if they want proper feedback, they can do a survey by putting it on the official site itself not by email.
    I can't imagine any decent candidate looking at these forums and thinking, "yeah, I wanna mod that"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I can't imagine any decent candidate looking at these forums and thinking, "yeah, I wanna mod that"
    Its only the english forums that having the issue. The last person i want to say that actually was part of it before they stepped down was back in hw. If we had a better moderation alot of feedback would had been given to them, but you know the usual always happens
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I can't imagine any decent candidate looking at these forums and thinking, "yeah, I wanna mod that"
    But somehow they're able to find mods for Twitter and Reddit, which are cesspits... how is that? Sorry but this isn't much of an excuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    But then you realize it's the same few people
    Same few people white knighting all the time - you do come up a lot in that category.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    This really isn't the strong argument you think it is. Reddit is a hivemind, but it's not always a negative one. Not even close. If you followed any game, live action series, anime or even political subreddit, the opinion always tend towards one direction. The Star Wars prequel subreddit tends overwhelmingly towards positive, but will you say that they were good or popular movies with the masses? If you want another example, try to say that you didn't like the messy Wano arc in One Piece's mainsub and see how it goes.
    Some communities even have very distinct positive and negative subreddits (even heard of r/gameofthrones vs r/freefolk?)

    So the fact that EW is popular on FFXIV's main sub means absolutely nothing.
    Indeed, it's one of the most peculiar defences I've seen utilised in defending the game. That site may as well be a shrine to the game at times.

    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    Man, this reminds me of a time months ago when I posted on one of the threads in r/ffxiv about my dissatisfaction with the Endwalker story. I was instantly at like -60 downvotes, my comment was buried, and angry fans were typing out long paragraphs to me laced with profanity. The FFXIV subreddit is truly something else.
    That happened to a person I know on here as well, with the usual slipping into DMs, stalking and other associated hostility. We've seen how elements of this community treat streamers who dare express a dissenting view as well.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 07-16-2022 at 09:45 PM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    But somehow they're able to find mods for Twitter and Reddit, which are cesspits... how is that? Sorry but this isn't much of an excuse.
    dont forget twitch.
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    Nope you are not, i also dont like him that much for several reasons. Yea i know he turned the game and that this was a good thing, but there are other things i dont like that much.
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    Well, this thread went about as well as could be expected.
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    Not to sounds too spicy or anything but, some of you need to calm down.

    as someone, who comes from a different game, I should admit Yoshi-P is much better at what he does than people who hold similar positions in other games.

    And Yes,even if he's a business man (not saying he is) ,he does business while also trying to accommodate community needs to a decent degree (we still want instanced housing tho), rather than focusing on solely profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukachu View Post
    Not to sounds too spicy or anything but, some of you need to calm down.

    as someone, who comes from a different game, I should admit Yoshi-P is much better at what he does than people who hold similar positions in other games.

    And Yes,even if he's a business man (not saying he is) ,he does business while also trying to accommodate community needs to a decent degree (we still want instanced housing tho), rather than focusing on solely profit.
    Reasonable comment?!!??!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukachu View Post
    Not to sounds too spicy or anything but, some of you need to calm down.

    as someone, who comes from a different game, I should admit Yoshi-P is much better at what he does than people who hold similar positions in other games.

    And Yes,even if he's a business man (not saying he is) ,he does business while also trying to accommodate community needs to a decent degree (we still want instanced housing tho), rather than focusing on solely profit.
    I've never liked this argument. "It's not as bad as x, y, or z, so you can't call out its flaws." We get it. WoW is worse than FF. Lost Ark is worse than FF. That doesn't mean that Yoshi gets a pass when he screws something up. And the more people try to use this excuse to give Yoshi free passes, the more you're going to have people dislike Yoshi because of how easy he has it despite screwing things up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Do you not notice the vast contrast from the man who cries over delaying content and the man who mocks his own playerbase for being too needy?
    I swear, he lets the mask slip now and then and people like you buy it anyway, hook, line and sinker.

    The man is a business man selling you a product, not your son.
    Thank you. Someone realizes that this man is a businessman first, and isn't your friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami View Post
    Yoshida is not an actor paid by Square Enix to fake tears and do some sick marketing.
    He's a pationate game developper with huge responsabilities on his shoulders.
    That's the persona he's sold you. He's successfully gotten you to buy into it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami View Post
    He's dedicating his life to make ff14 successful.
    Cause it makes him the dolla bills. I'm sure that if we took away his payment, he'd certainly still be working on FF14, cause he cares so much!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami View Post
    Who the hell are you to criticize him for crying when things are rough?
    A paying customer that not only desires but EXPECTS a quality product, and does not seeing Yoshi P crying every other LL as a valid excuse for why the product is not up to par. It worked the first time, but he's overplayed his hand and I don't care if he's upset or not anymore. Deliver me a quality product and I'll start caring again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami View Post
    Also he has never mocking in an ill intended way the playerbase. Its only the playerbase overreacting to a joke about an issue he is aware about.
    It wasn't a funny joke, and it was incredibly tone deaf if it even was one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I've never liked this argument. "It's not as bad as x, y, or z, so you can't call out its flaws." We get it. WoW is worse than FF. Lost Ark is worse than FF. That doesn't mean that Yoshi gets a pass when he screws something up. And the more people try to use this excuse to give Yoshi free passes, the more you're going to have people dislike Yoshi because of how easy he has it despite screwing things up.

    Thank you. Someone realizes that this man is a businessman first, and isn't your friend.

    That's the persona he's sold you. He's successfully gotten you to buy into it.

    Cause it makes him the dolla bills. I'm sure that if we took away his payment, he'd certainly still be working on FF14, cause he cares so much!

    A paying customer that not only desires but EXPECTS a quality product, and does not seeing Yoshi P crying every other LL as a valid excuse for why the product is not up to par. It worked the first time, but he's overplayed his hand and I don't care if he's upset or not anymore. Deliver me a quality product and I'll start caring again.

    It wasn't a funny joke, and it was incredibly tone deaf if it even was one.
    I am not going to rely on the baseless statements of a stranger on FF14 forum to forge my opinions.

    There are many improvement I wish for the game.
    But since ARR I am sastified with my FF14 experience, and I have great hopes for the future.
    I will stop trusting Yoshida and his team once they gave me a real reason to, because so far they have not.
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