RIP SAM - no reverts planned for 6.2

[Axxion]

I don't know what you guys problem is, i like the Samurai a lot more now, selfbuffs are not inconvinient to apply at the start of a fight and don't run out because the boss suddenly decides to go away and cant be attacked anymore, Kaiten was a useless skill wasting a hotkey space, so good thats gone.

The problem is that its up the player to learn the fight not just mash a button all willy nilly. As it stands sam to me fill extremely shallow without it. Like the others has said before all it became was spaming two skills Shinten for single or Kyuten due to the gauge being full

[Flashy]

I don't know what you guys problem is, i like the Samurai a lot more now, selfbuffs are not inconvinient to apply at the start of a fight and don't run out because the boss suddenly decides to go away and cant be attacked anymore, Kaiten was a useless skill wasting a hotkey space, so good thats gone.

This person doesn't even play the job

[Ceridwen]

I don't know what you guys problem is, i like the Samurai a lot more now, selfbuffs are not inconvinient to apply at the start of a fight and don't run out because the boss suddenly decides to go away and cant be attacked anymore, Kaiten was a useless skill wasting a hotkey space, so good thats gone.

It you remove your soulstone on any job, you can get the same feeling.

[GoatOfWar]

Welp, that's the end of that:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/467713



The context here is super important, it means they don't give a shit how we feel. This is the "you think you want it but you don't" moment for XIV.

Consider my sub cancelled. What a god damn shame.

Healer mains: First time here?

[AsiTsurugi]

I don't know what you guys problem is, i like the Samurai a lot more now, selfbuffs are not inconvinient to apply at the start of a fight and don't run out because the boss suddenly decides to go away and cant be attacked anymore, Kaiten was a useless skill wasting a hotkey space, so good thats gone.

Sucks to be as bad as you are.

[Supersnow845]

Healer mains: First time here?

DPS mains learn what healers have routinely been subjected to since 4.5

Trying to explain to a DPS main that healers basically went from 6.0 BLM to 6.0 MCH in terms of how much they regressed and that all healers were given the same treatment so you don’t have a choice and you just see the horror finally dawn in their eyes

[Tetsujin]

Currently huffing copium, hoping they address the changes in the 6.2 liveletter.

I tried the new SAM. I hate it, everyone seems to as well. Just revert, it's literally not hard. I do not understand how copy + pasting the code or whatever for 6.0 Samurai is difficult in anyway and why it won't be done in the face of overwhelming negative reactions.

[GoatOfWar]

DPS mains learn what healers have routinely been subjected to since 4.5

Trying to explain to a DPS main that healers basically went from 6.0 BLM to 6.0 MCH in terms of how much they regressed and that all healers were given the same treatment so you don’t have a choice and you just see the horror finally dawn in their eyes

Bring back shadowflare!

[Supersnow845]

Bring back shadowflare!

Just give us back SCH’s DOT’s; god at this point I’d take getting cleric stance back

[ForteNightshade]

I don't think that's going to happen (unfortunately). I'm convinced that they have a potency number in mind and any ability with a higher potency is going to be auto crit/DH. I think what they're going to do instead is update buffs like Battle Litany to give a flat damage bonus on auto crit abilities to make up for it. I'm thinking that's their "crit/DH rework." Alternatively, they'll take auto crit away and drastically lower the crit/DH chance/bonus.

I suspect this will be exactly what they do without realizing the impact it will have on those jobs. Suddenly giving Warrior a flat damage buff from Chain Strat, Litany and Battle Voice will be a massive DPS gain on Inner Release and Inner Chaos. Granted, Warrior needs a buff. So this does sort of help that. However, it also makes those three jobs I just mentioned mandatory for a Warrior. Which is precisely the problem they desperately tried to get away from in Shadowbringers after the sheer dominance of DRG/NIN/BRD in the previous expansions.