RIP SAM - no reverts planned for 6.2

[Ransu]

probably because there has be no communication regarding this.
the feedback has been overwhelming, yet not a word on it, only speculations which only drives into the "doom posting" scenario.
meanwhile PvP messes up BLM balance? yoshi instantly reacts to it publicly, this also drives into the doom posting since then people go "wait, if he can react that fast to PvP fuck ups, why not PvE" which is reasonable to me.
He asked for feedback and us trying the job, granted i've migrated to RDM and not looking back, but SAM was generally my roulette job since it does a lot of damage and seeing Kaiten not being there doesn't do it for me.
but he asked us to try the job, sure we did and we didn't like it, yet it's 100% radio silent, he could've easily made an statement in the LL for 6.2 part 1, but they only said that AST/DRG/whatever reworks are going to be for expansions, while stating their plan for crit/DH.

nothing on the SAM backlash, which is worrying to many since they've been basically forced to play an half broken job in their perspective (i get it) for nearly 3 or 4 months now.

To be fair, they have rarely if ever interfered with a current tiers end game balance unless something is outright broken. They leave it alone and say nothing until the next major patch with balance changes. PvP on the other hand is unique in its competitive nature and needs constant tweaking, and CC being new they obviously want to do right by it to keep the queue somewhat popular.

I don't know what you guys problem is, i like the Samurai a lot more now, selfbuffs are not inconvinient to apply at the start of a fight and don't run out because the boss suddenly decides to go away and cant be attacked anymore, Kaiten was a useless skill wasting a hotkey space, so good thats gone.

That's a you problem for not knowing the fight and popping a CD when you shouldn't have. Don't blame the skill when the fault was on you who clearly wants no consequences or thought put into your play and just wanna headbang the keyboard.

[Eldtagg]

As unrealistic as a company caring to life up to their promises of listening to feedback they requested of us testing their crap. That and SE moderating troll posts without some reading disability, a pipe-dream indeed.

SE can fix a plethora of very-recent issues during minor patches, even address and say " We're sowwy " for each mistake/problem like a Southpark side character,... except for recent 6.1 SAM changes. To the surprise of no one since other jobs got changed and let down in the past, cause it's a " realistic " accepted tradition.

"Queue up the Expansion-Roulette, which Job is getting screwed over this time?" amirite?

With a myriad of excuses again, troll posts again and apologists leff and right...again... they can't even word out what they are going to do with the next job changes. Probably in fear of another backlash if the next job changes are as terrible as the 6.1 SAM changes are.

" Better get back those healer mains for testing SE used to have and let go cause they were to good at dungeons ", I'm sure they play every job like not Samurai, erm Blackmage and... Miner?

If this feedback is the best we as a StarSparkling-Community can do?

• Some handful of trolls
• I'll settle for worse...
• Billion dollar company can't though...
• They can't possibly do this during a patch becuz...
• But precious Mr.Y will Cry...

Then I guess let the express-train of 10 years with jobs becoming dumber, stupider, homogenized, simplified, with fewer and fewer buttons keep riding on.

I understand that people do not like homogenization (ESO really sucks at that topic) but on the other hand I am one of those who don't really care that much about having a million buttons (SAM) to weave in.

Having 15-20 buttons is not really more enjoyable than havin 6 IMO.

Button bloat just suck and feels to me like you are playing an old MMO. FFXIV for all its cool skill effects, still boils down to: hit the enemy ~ enemy hits you/you passively dodge ~ move out of bad.

SAM is my favourite because I can pull of my arabic/persian inspired glam and something is always happening during combat (the GCD is a snooze in FFXIV) but the skill bloat doesn't make the class enjoyable.

Faster and more involved combat > skill bloat.

Maybe SE doesn't exactly know what changes they want for SAM yet or they feel it's in a good state?

We have to also remember MMORPG's is not just for the 3% of players in the top but also for dirty casuals like me.

[Stasya]

I understand that people do not like homogenization (ESO really sucks at that topic) but on the other hand I am one of those who don't really care that much about having a million buttons (SAM) to weave in.

We have to also remember MMORPG's is not just for the 3% of players in the top but also for dirty casuals like me.

You are just a troll. What makes it obvious? See even a casual player could have noticed that instead of using kaiten/shinten in rotation all SAM does after 6.1 is just spamming almost 2x shinten which results in same "million buttons to weave in". Why? Kaiten was 20 kenki ..... ta daaah!!!!!

And also just from casual player perspective i can't imagine getting better gear in dungeon/normal raids/alliance raids/tome gear and seeing similar wet noodle 25k damage thats grotesquely shows up in bigger font. Whats the point of having "% crit" name if its not really a crit?

[Eldtagg]

You are just a troll. What makes it obvious? See even a casual player could have noticed that instead of using kaiten/shinten in rotation all SAM does after 6.1 is just spamming almost 2x shinten which results in same "million buttons to weave in". Why? Kaiten was 20 kenki ..... ta daaah!!!!!

And also just from casual player perspective i can't imagine getting better gear in dungeon/normal raids/alliance raids/tome gear and seeing similar wet noodle 25k damage thats grotesquely shows up in bigger font. Whats the point of having "% crit" name if its not really a crit?

I'm a "troll", ok!

Let's end our discussion with that.

[Hezhi]

We have to also remember MMORPG's is not just for the 3% of players in the top but also for dirty casuals like me.

The thing is, if you're a casual playing easier content you can literally ignore these buttons and/or take them off your bar and you won't lose out on anything. It will not stop you from clearing anything or even doing decent damage, you'll be able to do MSQ content, roulettes and even things like Unreal and EX fights. When you take this into account there's no good reason to prune things and make it worse for players who do care about optimizing.

[Hezhi]

My only guess why they would stick to these recent job changes is because they already planned future skills/traits for the jobs, so reverting things, would be a greater set back.

Yeah, just like they had plans for healers when they destroyed them in ShB? Still waiting for something more than glare. It's fine if your job is absolutely horrible to play for years right? It's gonna get better in X.0! This is an absolute pants on heads idiotic way to change things, doubly so after they have demonstrably shown 0 plans or roadmap regarding future job changes, and I don't understand how anyone could get behind it.

[Vencio]

You are just a troll. What makes it obvious? See even a casual player could have noticed that instead of using kaiten/shinten in rotation all SAM does after 6.1 is just spamming almost 2x shinten which results in same "million buttons to weave in". Why? Kaiten was 20 kenki ..... ta daaah!!!!!

And also just from casual player perspective i can't imagine getting better gear in dungeon/normal raids/alliance raids/tome gear and seeing similar wet noodle 25k damage thats grotesquely shows up in bigger font. Whats the point of having "% crit" name if its not really a crit?

Who took the jam out of your donut?

Going to call every person “troll” that expresses otherwise?

Very mature of you SAMs that are reluctant for change

[Vencio]

Parse higher then grey and then talk about "evolving" to the changes. You don't even know how to play the game.

-sighs & sips wine- this one is ever raging,

Listen, you’ve made a martyr out of Kaiten on your slogan. I cannot fathom to ever comprehend what’s this rage you’re still containing which is not helping.

How does parse dictate my overall gameplay of the game anyway? : /

You could try better than that

[Karious]

If they ban anyone they should ban the dumbass being intentionally antagonistic in every thread.

[Vencio]

By expressing your thoughts & opinion that differentiates your’s one becomes labelled as the “anatgonist” when truth to be told it’s all differences within civility & some individuals are impulsive & overreact by ushering words & more labels to others.

How are you any different?

PS: Drama is ensued where one reacts & further fuels its flames. Such is the current predicament of such recent posts.

PSS: Please don’t divert the main theme of this post than further looking under my table & go beyond it.