RIP SAM - no reverts planned for 6.2

[Stasya]

Pretty rich coming from a person who uses video game highscores to make themselves feel superior.

Pretty rich coming from die hard SE fanboy who will rather see every class being neutered so its easier to play in dungeons.

Sorry i meant 'Glorious speaker on behalf of all sam players'

I have said this before and just repeat, even from casual players point of view 6.1 sam is trash. Get new gear? Enjoy same boring value crits. New patch this person pays sub money? Enjoy -1 skill to use for no reason with additional more shinten spam. And yes there are casual players who know what to press.

But its not about you, you are just a troll.

Pretty sure plenty of folks have cited the JP forums as well regarding SAM once 6.1 was announced. It's been more than just na

Kinda surprising radio silence even for jp community but w/e high horse is high.

[Quyn]

Pretty rich coming from die hard SE fanboy who will rather see every class being neutered so its easier to play in dungeons.

Sorry i meant 'Glorious speaker on behalf of all sam players'

I have said this before and just repeat, even from casual players point of view 6.1 sam is trash. Get new gear? Enjoy same boring value crits. New patch this person pays sub money? Enjoy -1 skill to use for no reason with additional more shinten spam. And yes there are casual players who know what to press.

But its not about you, you are just a troll.



Kinda surprising radio silence even for jp community but w/e high horse is high.

Your reading comprehension is so bloody poor, it explains a lot.

[Hezhi]

Personally, I never felt Kaiten as very engaging and would rather have a more interesting skill instead .
I bolded that one, to stress that I don't have certainty this is actually going to happen. Going by SE's track record, it would make sense but obviously we would all have that next patch, rather than next expansion. That is the intend, I took from the longer interviews I mentioned.

That's fine by me but why should I have to wait 2 years for my job to potentially not be kneecapped again. Going by SE's recent track record we're never going to get anything back.
They could have literally nothing at all and then rolled changes in 7.0 along with a new expac and none would be here complaining.

[Mortex]

I liked your post, as i almost completley agree with you. We shouldnt have to wait so long.
I never took my willingness, to wait on further sam design as an argument in favor of slow dev response time or poor communication. That is something people inserted into my intend and particular to how i feel about sam.
So ill repeatit for the third time : I think grievances are valid. I also think tone matters.

I particularly like the comments regarding where healers have been at for years, its a crying shame.

I would support fight design including more random damage and nechanics, to make healing more engaging, less scripted. But opinions are divided on that idea.

I agree tone matters but we ask them since 2-3 years nicely and after this you don’t have the mental fortitude anymore. Like I can understand 1 year but not 5. I can tell my kids about this later how they ignored jobs, I gonna see if t already my first sentence when my son or grandkid ask me about healer “tommey they were fun around 20 years ago and I also remember when samurai had kaiten 15 years ago”.

Like I’m serious why do they wonder that the player base gets agitated and rude if they promise “we listen” but they don’t in anyway shape or form. Like I saw that with the endwalker job trailer. All look pretty decent and then come the healer and it’s down the drain. And also did physical ranges. And a lot of other things.

[Mortex]

It could happen. I mean look at energy drain with SCH. However more than just NA has to complain about it for it to be reversed. Living dead and Blood weapon changes took years and over multiple expansions to get changed. Look at MCH, still havent fixed wildfire for it to be more ping friendly. I would be shocked in Kaiten was reverted in 6.2 or at all in the 6.X series

The Japanese samurai player base did already commit verbal murder on them after they couldn’t read that people wanted samurai buffs instead of nerfs in the first raid tier this expansion because the job was weak as hell. I mean you have actual people gathering free data for every job and how much dmg they do in average and it the top end. But oh no it’s on a spooky

[Zarkovitch]

The skill gap got toned down for SAM. However the complain seem like the Sam is the new MNK aka the new melee reject child of SE.

[Vencio]

Let it go already,

6.2 highlights were already introduced & there’s the conclusion for that.

Embrace it or take the “exit” door. WoW’s there waiting for since it fits most of you all.

[Hanayumi]

Curious why is it so hard for folks to wrap the heads around the idea that SE just wanted to tone down Sam as a "busy" job? Taking out Kaiten, "removed bloat", allowed them to do their auto crit debacle, and more importantly simplified the guage use. Love it or hated it, Devs dont seem to be letting up on their venture to dumb down all jobs...

[Ransu]

Curious why is it so hard for folks to wrap the heads around the idea that SE just wanted to tone down Sam as a "busy" job? Taking out Kaiten, "removed bloat", allowed them to do their auto crit debacle, and more importantly simplified the guage use. Love it or hated it, Devs dont seem to be letting up on their venture to dumb down all jobs...

I mean, that's fine. They can make the same mistakes WoW did and suffer the same consequences.

[CelestiCer]

Curious why is it so hard for folks to wrap the heads around the idea that SE just wanted to tone down Sam as a "busy" job? Taking out Kaiten, "removed bloat", allowed them to do their auto crit debacle, and more importantly simplified the guage use. Love it or hated it, Devs dont seem to be letting up on their venture to dumb down all jobs...

Because we debunked this where the amount of Shinten casts you use due to Kaiten removal is about 1 whole GCD less per minute aka " It's as Busy as it used to be ". Secondly, players enjoy skill-expression through complexity. Removal or dilution of it? equals reduced re-playability and lost gameplay of a Job that passionate players Love. Thirdly, the changes factually fixed nothing. Lastly, people can't wrap their heads around SE ignoring feedback that they themselves requested of us specifically from Samurai's to the Samurai changes and look surprised that we're voicing it out.

Though I agree, SE want's to " Cottonelle Ultra - ComfortCare " the normal Content and Gameplay for the already Pillowed players, to further entice them to not learn how to play Jobs, PvE basics or even reading tooltips. Just press your buttons and god forbid they forget to spam Shinten.


How I view players who think Samurai has unplayable button Bloat

• Omg! To many buttons!!
• This many abilities like gives me sooo much like anxiety right now
• I am allergic to buttons!!
• Totally triggering my button phobia right now...
• It's to much fun! what do I do with to much Fun to press!?