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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Really, the only capstone ability of SCH's that needs an upgrade/rework is Fey Union,
    Hard Disagree.

    Dissipation is a dumpster fire of an ability.

    1) It's supposed to be used in Emergencies when you're out of charges and need heals. Except it only affects healing SPELLS not all healing so it only affects 3 "spells": Physic, Adlo, Succor.. SCH is an ability based job. Dissipation has been trash since it was implemented and is proof positive that the developers lack any real understanding of how the job actually plays.

    2) Dissipiation used as a DPS cooldown: Before it was worth something but since the nerfing of Energy Drain to 100 potency, even if you used every single charge on ED, you'd only get 1 extra broil's worth of potency every 3 minutes, or an average of 100 potency a minute gain. And this isn't of DPS damage. This of healer damage. Not exactly meaningful in the grand scheme of things. And in doing so, blowing all your AF stack on DPS you lose out on a massive amount of healing and utility.

    3) Using Dissipation locks you out of all fairy abilities, as well as Fey Union gauge.

    4) Dissipation goes against the entire Job Identity of Scholar. The Scholar and the Fairy are supposed to work as a team to support.

    Like others have said, the capstone abilities actively fight each other. It's not a cohesive job.

    The quick and easy solution should be:

    Dissipation: Gives you 3 AF stacks and increases all healing(and possibly damage) by 20% for 30s. Keeps your fairy. Hell, lose the fairy if you the devs are hell bent on losing a core part of your job I guess. The increase to damage would make up for it.

    Capstone abilities are supposed to be strong.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-18-2022 at 09:59 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Hard Disagree.

    Dissipation is a dumpster fire of an ability.
    Dissipation is Dissipation. I don't think it's an amazing ability, but I wouldn't really say it's a dumpster fire either.

    1. I think it's become muddied a bit because back in Heavensward when it was added, the only outright healing you were getting from your faerie was Whispering Dawn/Embrace, but now additionally you have Fey Blessing, Fey Union, and Consolation from Seraph, making it more than just the total 1800 potency of the lost Embraces, but a loss of all of those abilities as well for 30 seconds. And if you've burned through Whispering, Fey, Seraph, 2 charges of Consolation and you also have no gauge/gauge isn't helpful, things have gone bad to a point that the added Aetherflow likely isn't going to be able to salvage since I would assume Indom/Excog/Soil are probably on CD as well, unless the SCH had no stacks before things went belly up.

    2. I think Dissipation being used pretty much solely as a DPS cooldown is a consequence of there being so much overhealing from every other healer job (SCH isn't free of this either but Energy Drain's existence encourages less overhealing than the other healers) that often times the loss of your fairy just isn't felt because your cohealer can cover for that 30s where Recitation/Protraction won't because of the ridiculous amounts of free healing. If anything it's really just an issue of encounter design in general where SCHs can usually get greedy with Dissipation and there's not really a DPS loss because of it - if its usage at poor times forced the SCH or their cohealer to have to use GCDs to heal, it is a loss, but how often does this really happen now when all of the healers have incredibly bloated healing kits? You can almost always use Dissipation during untargetable phases because the loss of Embrace isn't relevant at that point, though this seems to become more and more niche with newer encounters.

    I would agree that the nerf on ED from 150 to 100 mid ShB made Dissipation feel even worse for usage as a DPS tool, and honestly one of my largest gripe with SCH changes from ShB to EW (outside of the job still being incredibly boring DPS wise) is that they removed Energy Drain's ability to be used as an MP recovery tool at all, which completely removed one half of Dissipation's "emergency" usage. The times I felt Dissipation shined as an emergency tool was when I would die, get raised and would quickly need to recover MP to get back into the fight. I still really don't understand the reasoning behind this change and think its very stupid honestly, and has resulted in making SCH a bit more punishing on death, but I digress. Dissipation should give 2000 MP just like hitting Aetherflow does. It'd be something, at least.

    3. I think this is an issue with the Faerie Gauge than it is one with Dissipation, because Dissipation came first. More than anything though it is definitely a shining example of how little thought is put into how healer kits work - how did this get past testing in Stormblood, and how has it continued into Endwalker? I seriously struggle to think there's any legitimate design choice on the fact that you don't gain gauge when Eos/Selene aren't present other than they never bothered to figure out how to make it work - just like they didn't bother to make Fey Blessing work during Summon Seraph even though it's been completely removed from the gauge, leaving it no different than Whispering/Fey Illumination as a cooldown.
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