LIVE Letter Regarding DRG & AST Postponed Reworks

[Supersnow845]

I preferred the 5.0 version of AST. Astrodyne preserves some of how the 5.0 version made me feel, but it's a worse version of it because it only affects my damage and without a Royal Road-type system like Lord/Lady to dump unwanted cards into, it doesn't feel as mentally-stimulating to play.

Whatever changes people do or don't want to AST, most people can probably agree it needs to be something other than what it is now. I think they should just go back to the 5.0 version and work from there with faster cast times and seeing what features from SB and HW could work in the new version of AST.

They also absolutely need to do something about the difficulty gulf between console and M&K players, AST Is the only class that has it and it’s not a small difference either, this game was no designed for septuple weaves but console AST is expected to do them semi frequently to play optimally

5.0 AST is far better than 6.0 AST (though please dear god keep astrodyne over having seals affect divination) but both still struggle with the console problem because of the prevalence of single target buffs, honestly I think every cars needs to do damage and have a secondary effect, base card effect is single target but they bring back royal road and make RR make cards AOE, so you fish for the correct secondary effect with RR but you are always better off royal roading for the AOE damage than single targeting which removes the console disadvantage

[Gemina]

Whatever changes people do or don't want to AST, most people can probably agree it needs to be something other than what it is now. I think they should just go back to the 5.0 version and work from there with faster cast times and seeing what features from SB and HW could work in the new version of AST.

All you're saying here is to revert AST back to SB, and not every healer wants that for AST. SB AST was even more APM heavy back then, and that's what continues to be problem with AST today. They will never revert it back to that salad. It was a mess.

While AST does have issues, this will be yet another rework for this bane of a job, and that's what pisses me off more than anything. Meanwhile, both SCH and WHM play nearly identical to their ARR versions with a lot less management of their kits.

Ah well. Nature really never saw fit or much need to evolve dragonflies, and perhaps that's the devs approach to the original healers. They feel they are perfect.

[Jeeqbit]

All you're saying here is to revert AST back to SB, and not every healer wants that for AST. SB AST was even more APM heavy back then, and that's what continues to be problem with AST today. They will never revert it back to that salad. It was a mess.

I actually said it should be reverted to 5.0. It was APM heavy in 5.0 until the frequency of card use was reduced, but it was fun being that APM heavy as well.

[Deveryn]

Ah, there it is. It wouldn't be a thread about another job without it. Good riddance Kaiten.

[QooEr]

AST has massive APM problems on controller though, without forcing target macros into the system (which still gives AST higher APM on controller) then AST has such disgusting APM it blows right past NIN into a class of its own, this game really isn’t designed for septuple weaves

giving cards on controller was fine in shb. it only became awful in ew because of the charges on draw and the removal of sleeve draw

[Tlamila]

This news was honestly the best news of this expansion.
People are happy for island sanctuary, I'm happy that for now two of the few fun jobs left aren't getting ruined.

Seriously, I had to drop RDM this expansion after 2expansions maining it, now remove also my new dps main and my healer main, and all I'll ever do again in this game is tanking. I was tryng to get better at ninja to replace the dps slot, but really it's too much for me. And I can't imagine anymore playing a healer who has nothing to do but spam 1 button when heals are not needed (which in normal content is pretty often).

There are already countless simplified/low apm jobs, this expansion more got gutted that way and the new jobs they keep adding aren't exactly very exciting either. Just focus on all those and leave the few left that are different be, if you can't play them. Not every single job needs to be for everybody.

If anything I hear MCH could use a nice rework...it's not doing exactly well and it's still a finger-breaking class for really low pings. And I'm not sure how many actually enjoy it now. And yeah SCH is..whatever.

[Jeeqbit]

If anything I hear MCH could use a nice rework...it's not doing exactly well and it's still a finger-breaking class for really low pings. And I'm not sure how many actually enjoy it now. And yeah SCH is..whatever.

I enjoy MCH a lot. It's one of the DPS I currently play. It's simple but fun.

[IkaraGreydancer]

To me it seems Drg is fine as is. (Though I have noticed the DoT falls off before I can reapply it though admittedly I may just be ass xD).
Peak Ast to me was SB Ast. I was never one of those balance fishers either.

[LogosDiablo]

It seems weird to me that they're basing these postponements on the feedback of the reworks they gave jobs that didn't necessarily need them, despite DRG and AST definitely needing their actions-per-minute fixed urgently. I literally hurt my finger playing DRG on controller.

Thoughts?

I've mained DRG for eight years on controller. It's perfect the way it is. The only "fixing" it needs for actions-per-minute is that it needs more. It is one of the high APM classes in the game. If you don't like it, don't play it. Don't come into my main and demand that it change because it doesn't fit your preferred playstyle.

These are my thoughts. DRG doesn't need huge changes. An evolution toward even more jumping and more OGCDS would be appreciated, but a complete rework is unwelcome.

[dapperfaffer]

I've mained DRG for eight years on controller. It's perfect the way it is. The only "fixing" it needs for actions-per-minute is that it needs more. It is one of the high APM classes in the game. If you don't like it, don't play it. Don't come into my main and demand that it change because it doesn't fit your preferred playstyle.

These are my thoughts. DRG doesn't need huge changes. An evolution toward even more jumping and more OGCDS would be appreciated, but a complete rework is unwelcome.

How dare you gatekeep DRG from others. The class isn't yours alone!