2 minute burst rotation meta has negatively impacted combat

[Duskane]

I don't hate the synergy with 2 minutes but i do hate how charge actions have become "save for 2 minutes" leading to a lot of jobs feeling similar in this regard,
every damaging gap closer,shadow bringer,gauss/richochet etc,
its fine for some jobs like MCH but i don't think gap closers should have potency.

[AziraSyuren]

If you ask me, it would've been much better if they split jobs between 60s and 90s burst windows rather than doubling down on the 60s/120s one.

I know the dev team hates raid synergy differences (and I do too) but I'm definitely at the point where I'd prefer a bit more variation than balance. We have enough jobs that we could have at least 2 distinct meta comps if jobs were split evenly between 60s and 90s, so it's potentially not nearly as much of an issue as it used to be. It was hardly an issue in ShB.

I guess it makes fights easier to design, but the dev team hardly takes advantage of the freedom current job design offers them to begin with so it just feels like a waste. And even with current design, some jobs are still significantly worse in some fights than others so it ends up feeling doubly pointless.

[MagiusNecros]

Would prefer that jobs be unique instead of relying on burst windows. Then again the most fun job this expansion has been Dragon Kick Monk outside of Fisher.

When you get down to it even Blue Mage has this problem by fitting everything into a Moon Flute with all the Primal skills. Some of which you guessed it have a 2 min CD.

Too much overreliance on building raid encounters around 2 minute burst tends to pigeonhole most if not all jobs into that sort of playstyle.

[Kolsykol]

Then again the most fun job this expansion has been Dragon Kick Monk

.... Fisher DPS Job when tho?

[MagiusNecros]

Fisher DPS Job when tho?

Probably never. I do love those Fisher expeditions tho.

I just think it's so hilarious how busted Dragon Kick is that you can do slightly less DPS then a meta rotation and still perform amazing. It's made me shelf every DPS because of it. I'm surprised it hasn't been nerfed.

The state of melee DPS is pretty baffling to me. DRG is a wet noodle, SAM got Kaiten taken from them which was half the job, Ninjas is dependent on being level capped for Lightning abilities accounting for their previous high APM and Reaper is a very braindead slow builder spender job that ultimately is middle of the road. And is only really engaging with Reaver stacks and Enshroud, outside of that it's boring to me.

And the thing that makes Monks amazing is that Dragon Kick can carry you from lvl50 to lvl 90. Which is ridiculous.

[WhimsicalPacifist]

.... Fisher DPS Job when tho?

That Fisher Price job would be 6.0 Summoner! Or it would if it could be constructive and engaging like those children's toys.

[UkcsAlias]

Would prefer that jobs be unique instead of relying on burst windows.

In any team oriented game this happens naturaly, and if that doesnt work, its going to end up on straight max dps. It doesnt matter if its a lootshooter, moba or RTS.

Burst is generaly the most efficient system to deal damage as it negates healing potential. And also reduces chances on interupts. Even in an RTS this matters (where healing is effectively just building new units/saving resources).

The problem in ffxiv is simply that bosses are predictable. You know that after a certain mechanic there will be a few seconds of no action, which is a perfect window. There is rarely any situation in which mechanics can follow up (or its very static), and usualy those mechanics happen because its multiple smaller enemies overlapping their abilities (most of the time outside of boss fights).

A lot more things need to be randomized to counter this, but randomizing will be a problem in the highest difficulty fights (instead of skill it becomes RNG whether you can survive). This just doesnt sound right balance wise. A more difficult mechanic in an easier dungeon is often just bad. Still, static randomization can work (as in: you know that each time a mechanic happens, one out of 4 events can happen which all rely on diffirent timing), but again, its just learning patterns to know burst windows. Its not realy a major improvement here.

[xAFROx]

as a Samurai Player, we got Ogi Namikiri as a 2 Minute Burst (and we will get a Single Target Ogi in 7.0 predictably) which imo okay.. what's not Okay is that they turned Ninja's Trick Attack into old Disembowel!

I really hope SAM doesn't end up getting another redundant skill. What next would they remove to keep it due to "bloat"? I'd rather they bring back Seigan as a reward for proper mitigation again, and make Meditation stacks as a whole more interactive.

[Ruminous]

I really hope SAM doesn't end up getting another redundant skill. What next would they remove to keep it due to "bloat"? I'd rather they bring back Seigan as a reward for proper mitigation again, and make Meditation stacks as a whole more interactive.

I would've liked seigan to do more than a tickle for proper counter play on dps, but being able to do something for anticipating damage was nice still. Could've made it add shoha stacks at 90 or something if they kept it in as well, reward your play even more. But, can't have things that are too complex I guess.

[Hezhi]

I really hope SAM doesn't end up getting another redundant skill. What next would they remove to keep it due to "bloat"? I'd rather they bring back Seigan as a reward for proper mitigation again, and make Meditation stacks as a whole more interactive.

We're going to get a Kaiten clone at level 96 and single target Ogi at level 100 while Higanbana gets pruned because DoTs bad. Also Ogi Namikiri is a circle AOE now somehow. Please look forward to it.