Duty Support And Trust are Literally the same system

[LadyAveria]

Trust requires you to level them, Duty support goes right up to the last dungeon in EW currently, can someone explain why we have two identical systems? Do they keep trusts because of the title you can get if you level them all? Is the community that salty that if they removed one of the systems that are the SAME they would complain? They talk about resources this and resources that but we have this bullshit going on lol

[Ilisidi]

Duty support is for doing the story. Trusts allows you to take people you normally don't have access to during the story and leveling them also unlocks alternate glamor for our trust friends.

I'd rather see them getting resources than other stuff I care less about.

[ICountFrom0]

Figure the two will eventually merge once the systems catch up to eachother.

[Iscah]

Trust requires you to level them, Duty support goes right up to the last dungeon in EW currently, can someone explain why we have two identical systems?

You just answered your own question and stated why they are not identical.

Trusts require levelling; duty support does not. You can get duty support for the level 90 dungeon while your trusts are still at level 71 and can only access Holminster.

[LadyAveria]

You just answered your own question and stated why they are not identical.

Trusts require levelling; duty support does not. You can get duty support for the level 90 dungeon while your trusts are still at level 71 and can only access Holminster.

So why have trusts if you can just do all the dungeons anyway with duty support? Oh? You can put them in different clothes, wow! That deserves a whole system that is the same experience.

[LadyAveria]

Duty support is for doing the story. Trusts allows you to take people you normally don't have access to during the story and leveling them also unlocks alternate glamor for our trust friends.

I'd rather see them getting resources than other stuff I care less about.

But you have access to everyone >.> you can choose who to take in like trusts but you don't have to level them! IN FACT in Duty support you even get neat one off NPCs in some dungeons.

[LadyAveria]

Figure the two will eventually merge once the systems catch up to eachother.

Yeah that's what I think will happen eventaully, when I get my headwear for my bun XD

[BRVV]

So why have trusts if you can just do all the dungeons anyway with duty support? Oh? You can put them in different clothes, wow! That deserves a whole system that is the same experience.

So? What do you get from Beast Tribes? What do you get with PVP rewards? What with MGP? Not everyone cares about what you get. What are you even suggesting? Should it be required to level trusts to beat the story?

Figure the two will eventually merge once the systems catch up to eachother.

I don't think so. They were both called trusts before.

[Stepjam]

Figure the two will eventually merge once the systems catch up to eachother.

I don't think so since they are two separate things. If they merged them, players would have to take the time to grind up their supports from Shadowbringers to use them in MSQ later on which would just be a pain in the ass.

[Iscah]

So why have trusts if you can just do all the dungeons anyway with duty support? Oh? You can put them in different clothes, wow! That deserves a whole system that is the same experience.

It's one-and-a-half systems that was originally presented as one system but has now been spread across two. Splitting them apart entirely was the right choice, because trusts just got in the way of being able to use (what is now) duty support post-credits – even though you were allowed to use it to replay dungeons before clearing the 5.0 credits, afterwards you were locked into levelling all your trusts if you wanted to re-run any dungeon with NPC party members ever again.

Trusts are cut off and reduced to optional busywork now, so if you don't care about the minimal rewards (which mostly only benefit further use of the trust system) then you just don't touch them.

But you have access to everyone >.> you can choose who to take in like trusts but you don't have to level them! IN FACT in Duty support you even get neat one off NPCs in some dungeons.

You don't get access to "everyone" with duty support, only the characters who were with you at that point in the story. You can take the Exarch into Holminster but you can't take Thancred.

Trusts give you the fixed roster of avatars who can go into dungeons where the "real" character was not present, which occasionally yields extra dialogue or character behaviour you couldn't see otherwise, but you can't take the special guests.