Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
All I know is that the job wouldn't be in the state that it's in now if they had done an honest adaptation of the Final Fantasy Summoner fantasy from the beginning instead of marrying it off to WoW's warlock class. We have a nice little level 50 job...and that's all it is.

Too little too late, give us a full job already with summons that don't follow the gem/demi paradigm and while you're at it give the ex-SMN crowd their Time Mage or Necromancer. There is no long lasting max level content to take this job into anyway, so do as you wish.
I made the thread like you suggested - thanks for the advice there, there's been some interesting discussion.

Why not let summoner retain its identity in this game and have evoker added with a more realised set of summons? In ff3 at least, evoker had multiple possible actions/summon with summoner being limited to one admittedly typically stronger cast. This would allow the evoker to pivot to a more supportive role if needed or focus on damage (Assuming they don't keep the random selection for an unknown reason).