Single Target powerful attack for each job (just a idea)

[AnotherPerson]

Basically, LB from PvP jobs, where we get our own unique LB bar rather than just a party bar I assume.
Tbf, it could go on everyone's gauge as a separate LB gauge, and this gauge could be charged using AST's cards... giving some spice and variety there... so I can see how it can be fun with it.

It can consolidate and help remove /adjust skills to make sure it's not overpowered or unbalanced. I don't know if that can be implemented so soon though since it would affect every class.

[Absurdity]

How about just no? We already have problems with potency creep, to the point where Samurai now has to deal with atrocious auto crits because Oga Namikiri/Kaeshi Namikiri had too much crit variance for a 2 minute cooldown.

I don't even want to think about the guaranteed dumpster fire when you have an ability that you can only use once per fight and you don't get the maximum damage possible out of it.

[Superskull85]

How about just no? We already have problems with potency creep, to the point where Samurai now has to deal with atrocious auto crits because Oga Namikiri/Kaeshi Namikiri had too much crit variance for a 2 minute cooldown.

I don't even want to think about the guaranteed dumpster fire when you have an ability that you can only use once per fight and you don't get the maximum damage possible out of it.

Not that I am for this idea (I am definitely not) but you can solve the issue with maximum buff window issue by making the attack not be affected by buffs just like a group limit break.

[Absurdity]

Not that I am for this idea (I am definitely not) but you can solve the issue with maximum buff window issue by making the attack not be affected by buffs just like a group limit break.

You could but at that point it would basically just be another LB, so what would be the point of adding these in the first place?

[Mikey_R]

How about just no? We already have problems with potency creep, to the point where Samurai now has to deal with atrocious auto crits because Oga Namikiri/Kaeshi Namikiri had too much crit variance for a 2 minute cooldown.

I don't even want to think about the guaranteed dumpster fire when you have an ability that you can only use once per fight and you don't get the maximum damage possible out of it.

It wasn't Ogi Namikiri that made them change it, it was Midare Setsugekka. The reasoning they gave was crits were causing a massive damage fluctuation. So, the question is, why? Looking at the potency of Midare Setsugekka (before the chance) you can see it has a much higher potency than every other weaponskill Samurai had that was also in frequent use (ie. their GCD combos). Infact, I worked it out to be ~2.5 times stronger. This alone is not the issue however, the issue comes from how frequently the attack is used, which was ~3 times a minute. With an attack being so much stronger than the average AND being used frequently, it is going to be the leading cause of damage variation based on whether someone got lucky with a crit/DH or not.

If the issue is with the crits, if you force the attack to always crit, you can take that damage variance out, keep it high powered and only have the much weaker DH get involved with the damage fluctuations. The reason Ogi Namikiri was changed is likely not because it was a factor in the massive crit variance, it was likely a by product of making Midare auto crit. Having the strongest skill sometimes not do more damage than the second strongest, auto crit, probably just felt bad, so they made it also auto crit so that it would consistently be stronger.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It wasn't Ogi Namikiri that made them change it, it was Midare Setsugekka. The reasoning they gave was crits were causing a massive damage fluctuation. So, the question is, why? Looking at the potency of Midare Setsugekka (before the chance) you can see it has a much higher potency than every other weaponskill Samurai had that was also in frequent use (ie. their GCD combos). Infact, I worked it out to be ~2.5 times stronger. This alone is not the issue however, the issue comes from how frequently the attack is used, which was ~3 times a minute. With an attack being so much stronger than the average AND being used frequently, it is going to be the leading cause of damage variation based on whether someone got lucky with a crit/DH or not.

If the issue is with the crits, if you force the attack to always crit, you can take that damage variance out, keep it high powered and only have the much weaker DH get involved with the damage fluctuations. The reason Ogi Namikiri was changed is likely not because it was a factor in the massive crit variance, it was likely a by product of making Midare auto crit. Having the strongest skill sometimes not do more damage than the second strongest, auto crit, probably just felt bad, so they made it also auto crit so that it would consistently be stronger.

Well, Namakiri just replaced Midare with a longer CD between uses. Midare got nerfed in 6.0 when they added it.

[Haruka_R]

I would love to use the PVP LB in PVE.

[Catwho]

FFXI had this. They were called 1 hour abilities (originally 2 hours, but they got buffed.)

Some were better than others. Most DPS classes were really strong, but then there was NIN, who got Self Destruct. Bard (a support class in XI) had the potency of their songs double. Red mage got 30 seconds of nonstop casting. If I remember right, black mage got no MP spells. That sort of thing.

Most of them made their way into XIV in some form or another, for example XI's paladin got 30 seconds of pure invulnerability with Invincible, whereas XIV's paladin has Hallowed Ground.

https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/One_Hour_Ability

[Zaene]

FFXI had this. They were called 1 hour abilities (originally 2 hours, but they got buffed.)

Some were better than others. Most DPS classes were really strong, but then there was NIN, who got Self Destruct. Bard (a support class in XI) had the potency of their songs double. Red mage got 30 seconds of nonstop casting. If I remember right, black mage got no MP spells. That sort of thing.

Most of them made their way into XIV in some form or another, for example XI's paladin got 30 seconds of pure invulnerability with Invincible, whereas XIV's paladin has Hallowed Ground.

https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/One_Hour_Ability

FFXI's paladin's invulnerability was physical damage only. *Thousand yard trauma stare*

[Cabalabob]

I’m gonna echo the sentiments that it would either be something they balance around and become just another button to push or it would be completely broken to the point where if it has any noticeable impact in 8 man content it would be absurdly broken in dungeons or open world content.

But there is somewhere that this idea could work. Blue Mage. Powerful enough to one shot a dungeon boss? That’s fine, it’s blue Mage they can basically solo dungeons synced anyway. As powerful as an LB? Great, BLU doesn’t have one of those and could really use something like that for certain dps checks in higher level trials.

They could even have multiple spells like this with different effects or mimicry requirements, maybe even something similar to FFXI’s unbridled learning where they had extremely powerful spells that were locked behind an ability with a long recast.