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Thread: Rework SAM LB

  1. #21
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    Danielle Osmond
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    ............The only solution I can think of in fixing their LB is to lol.....buff it's LB from 24k to 32k on the first target it hits, with a 50% fall off in line of sight. Just change Chitan that used to give you a 25% damage taken for 5 secs to a 25% heavy/skill-spell speed reduction for 3 secs. Trying to keep it on par with the old effects.
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    I don't know much about SAM other than my Battle High V getting assassinated by them in frontlines for 60k damage whenever there is a teamfight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubytoe View Post
    1.Look at enemy team list
    2.Notice sam has lb
    3.Hit sam till they use chiten
    4.Don't press any buttons for 5 seconds
    5.Continue hitting sam til dead
    Players act like they never played red light green light.

    In my honest opinion samurai needs a whole rework period.
    I'd hate to say such a thing, but I'd put it at the bottom of the melee tier list. Outside of a gimmicky LB that they usually use once a game, compared to what all other melee bring, sam is underperforming.

    Friendly reminder, the reflect damage on chiten is 2k. Imagine getting hit with 2k.
    Except this is very uninteresting gameplay and they can get a free instant kill if you accidentally clip them with an AOE - which is really frustrating. I do agree though, they probably need a full rework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenwatch View Post
    I don't know much about SAM other than my Battle High V getting assassinated by them in frontlines for 60k damage whenever there is a teamfight.
    Its kinda annoying but I learned the hard way after the current patch ;

    -Ignore the SAM or Tank that dives 1vs24
    -Target the enemy behind them (usually a range job)
    -Focus hard until the range job dies
    -SAM by now already spent his Chiten.
    -SAM player can't track everyone with Kuzushi and will spend his LB anyways.
    -See him panic and run away.

    When I play with smart players in FL the enemy SAM's almost never get a single kill with Kazushi+LB.
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    Funny story is samurai strongest weapon is also it self greatest weakness lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Except this is very uninteresting gameplay and they can get a free instant kill if you accidentally clip them with an AOE - which is really frustrating. I do agree though, they probably need a full rework.
    That is the only questionable part of the LB, accidently dying to the SAM because 80% of your kit does aoe damage. While not hitting the SAM for 5 seconds is entirely reasonable, not being able to do anything for 5 seconds because you're going to unintentionally cleave the SAM is questionable design.
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    They need to remove the instant kill from the LB and maybe make it take 50% off health players instead. /Sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That is the only questionable part of the LB, accidently dying to the SAM because 80% of your kit does aoe damage. While not hitting the SAM for 5 seconds is entirely reasonable, not being able to do anything for 5 seconds because you're going to unintentionally cleave the SAM is questionable design.
    Begs the question. Can SAM run into a MCH turret and then instant kill them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Begs the question. Can SAM run into a MCH turret and then instant kill them?
    No ground AOE dont proc it only targeted dmg (this includes aoe hit that hit another target)
    Learn this the hard way trying to exploit

    Hope I explained that clearly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatom View Post
    No ground AOE dont proc it only targeted dmg (this includes aoe hit that hit another target)
    Learn this the hard way trying to exploit

    Hope I explained that clearly
    You did, thank you.
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