To recap, early september last year Rich Campbell, along with a group of 7 other world first raiders cleared ucob after less than 24 real hours of prog.

Unsurprisingly many players in the community reacted negatively to this, claiming it was not a legitimate clear, or was not representative of what it takes to clear an ultimate.

Streamers like Xenosys Vex were quick to throw their own audience under the bus, claiming that:
1. They were just salty that they were not as good at the game as rich
2. rich "still had to do the mechanics"
3. rich "was a mythic raider" who parsed purple or above, so this was easy for him
4. ultimates are easy content now with all the gear level creep and potency creep

Now that the dust has settled and almost a year has passed and we can actually have a conversation about this, I pose to you a few questions:
1. Was rich's clear representative of the average player's experience trying to clear an ultimate, or did he get massive help from having 7 world first raiders?
2. Could someone, any average player, have done the same if they were put alone into the same group of 7 other players?
3. Streamers like Pint who are progging uwu fresh with a group of 8 people who haven't cleared are taking much longer than 24h of prog to clear, is that normal?
4. Rich "still had to do the mechanics" and indeed, he was sandbagging, but was it such a big deal?
5. Are ultimates easy now?