Anti-Exploit Measures for Caravan (Can I have it?)

[Answa]

It wasn't just that I wasn't invited to the party, that on it's own actually would have been fine with me. It's how I was told that I would not be invited to the party which prompted me to do what I did. Basically it comes down to this; treat people with respect if you want to be treated with respect in return. Answa told me he would not invite me and told me straight up and I quote "I hope you die, bitch!". I actually had no idea I would get seals at all. I was just trying to make the party leader work harder to get the reward because he was being an asshole.

Huh? I've never even seen your character in game... Are you seriously claiming that I said that to you?

I get really pissed off, but I don't tell anyone to die. I tell my party to let you die. Much more humane, if you ask me.

[Molly_Millions]

Huh? I've never even seen your character in game... Are you seriously claiming that I said that to you?

I get really pissed off, but I don't tell anyone to die. I tell my party to let you die. Much more humane, if you ask me.

I wish I had a screenshot... If I had known this was gonna come up here, I definitely would have taken one.

[Answa]

I wish I had a screenshot... If I had known this was gonna come up here, I definitely would have taken one.

Try harder to troll. I'm not even in the Flames. I'd love to see your Photoshop skills prove you right. Nevermind, resolved it ingame.

This is not fair nor is it accurate. There is no reason someone should have to sit out for two or three HOURS because a pty doesn't want to share. First come first serve. Ideally you SHOULD be rotating if there are more than 8 people who wish to participate. Otherwise YOUR being the dushe. The way Behest generally works(when people used to DO behest), NPC spawns, people rush to get one of the 8 spots, pty forms from people who got a spot...and go. Everyone else? Too slow, try again next time.

This is not a leve quest, its not an instanced event, it's an open world event like behest.

Opening up the numbers to more than 8 members would be ideal, there is not even a real reason to force this to be a pty event. No one is in it for exp, in the end we just want the seals, and you don't have to form a pty to get those.

Don't try to pull that card. That's just rude gameplay.

Whining that someone beat you signing up for Caravan is like crying because you were not fast enough to get into Behest. There are not the dushe, the person bitching about it is. If you want to farm seals in a pty go do Toto Rak, Caravan is first come first serve.

No, it's not. If someone did what Ms. Molly did, then I'd be fine with it (in principle--I'd still be a little pissed, since I'm human and not a rational rule robot [alliteration!]), because she said she brought a small group with her.

That's fine.

If a solo person come along, expecting to get a free ride, that's where I see a problem, since through zero effort in that person's part, there's now seven people doing all the work that they planned on doing, while this 8th (who in my experience never says anything, just leeches) asshole just gets a free ride.

[Eyn]

Only eight people at any given time can take part in a Caravan Escort, so when you manage to gather a full party in hopes of doing 1,000 seal runs and you're greeted by a parasite who edges out an unlucky party member, then proceeds to take a seat at the end, no one's particularly happy.

I've done that, but it was because I got the quest before somebody else and the party leader refused to invite me. He actually accused me of stealing from the party.

Please remember folks, caravan escorts are first come first served. Just because you did the last one, that does not guarantee you a spot in the next run, your MUST be faster than the other folks waiting for the quest.

Caravan escort is an open event. Not instance, raid party or whatever. Party is only created for those who take the quest, just like behest. It's the problem of players' mindset here. Some players think they are given the priorities if they have a party before quests are taken*facepalm*

[Molly_Millions]

), because she said she brought a small group with her.

That's fine.

If a solo person come along, expecting to get a free ride, that's where I see a problem, since through zero effort in that person's part, there's now seven people doing all the work that they planned on doing, while this 8th (who in my experience never says anything, just leeches) asshole just gets a free ride.

That's fine to be angry about somebody leeching. In my case, I came to help. I only leeched as payback for people being assholes. I did it just to piss off the party leader. However, I don't think there is anything wrong with somebody showing up alone. In fact, because of the number of people that are sometimes waiting at the NPC, that's actually preferable. Chances are, if you bring a group of 4 to the NPC, some of those 4 are getting left out. Most of the time there are more than four peple already running the escort missing because it's the best way to get seals.