Anti-Exploit Measures for Caravan (Can I have it?)

[Doho]

wait, people do caravan?!?

[Answa]

wait, people do caravan?!?

765-1k seals every 15 minutes? Yes. Yes, they do.

And JakeRoon, it's not boring. It's actually quite fun. But, as with everything else, when you repeat it often, you'll get burnt out.

[waldo]

Why not just kick the leecher out of the party?

[Eagleheart]

Why not just kick the leecher out of the party?

That is not quite how it works. The OP mentioned bringing a full party to Caravan, but as the sign-up period commenced (like Behest) an outsider got the eighth slot.

They are not in the OP's party, and cannot be kicked. They simply wander off to tend to other business while the OP's party does the work, and the leech receives the benefits.

If you have someone who want just be a leecher, do nothing. Maybe he go away after he get gysal green instead of seals the third time.

Any solution involving regular players idling for a solid hour, hoping that the exploiter leaves, is simply not viable. A forced party is indeed a good idea.

Might be something that has to be addressed in 2.0 as well. I can think of a couple of different ideas, which I'm sure have also occurred to Dev Team, but I doubt their validity in the current game structure.

[Sephrick]

They should make it like leves. Talk to the NPC and your group gets its own mobs and chocobos.

[Eagleheart]

They should make it like leves. Talk to the NPC and your group gets its own mobs and chocobos.

I concur. The leve system is severely underutilized, in my opinion. (o.O ) People talk about the difficulty of balancing lockouts with drop rates. Why not make things like Ifrit cost leve tokens?

Some balancing would be in order, of course, but it seems a good starting point.

[JakeRoon]

I concur. The leve system is severely underutilized, in my opinion. (o.O ) People talk about the difficulty of balancing lockouts with drop rates. Why not make things like Ifrit cost leve tokens?

Some balancing would be in order, of course, but it seems a good starting point.

I also agree....

I know leves kinda got a bad wrap back in the day; but it's time to bring it back with the right idea this time. It just makes good sense to use leves for these types of things (guardia/ifrit, caravans etc)

[Antipika]

. There's no concept set in place to calculate involvement, check for afkers, or a means to scale it based on the amount involved.

Well then SE should add one. The game got enough metrics to evaluate if someone has been active or not. All they need is to come up with a balanced formula, which works for all needed tasks and is more or less equal for all jobs.

[Molly_Millions]

I've done that, but it was because I got the quest before somebody else and the party leader refused to invite me. He actually accused me of stealing from the party. So before I did it, I told him "You wanna see stealing from a party?" then promptly switched to whm and put myself on follow on the NPC. Guess what happened? I got 500 seals for no work. Had the party leader invited me, I would have helped to earn the full 750 seals.

Please remember folks, caravan escorts are first come first served. Just because you did the last one, that does not guarantee you a spot in the next run, your MUST be faster than the other folks waiting for the quest.

[Answa]

I've done that, but it was because I got the quest before somebody else and the party leader refused to invite me. He actually accused me of stealing from the party. So before I did it, I told him "You wanna see stealing from a party?" then promptly switched to whm and put myself on follow on the NPC. Guess what happened? I got 500 seals for no work. Had the party leader invited me, I would have helped to earn the full 750 seals.

That's because you were alone there... with no party... and still you got the quest... alone... There's no reason to do that other than knowing full well that that party had already formed expressly for running caravans and wanting to butt in without having formed part of the party.

I tell my party not to do dick when people like you join unannounced.