Thread: Fresh Start will ruin 2.0

Originally Posted by Chardrizard

Yes most people want to have the best gear possible, but when one isn't obtainable, they will go for alternatives, which in this game have many alternatives for every slot.

It's very different than FFXI where you need to wear Hagun until u can get SAM relic weapon, in this game u have choice of 3 primals weapon currently, GC weapons, green raid weapon which all perfomrs very closely to each other.

Your scenario only works if best items comes from craftable and triple above melds.

Because we have our own hierarchy in this game, There is no best craftable items unless you double/triple meld it. We will never have best craftable items if it's not melded.

Right now the reason triple-meld gear isn't popular is because gear goes from awesome to useless within a few months. If things stay that way then you are right, there probably won't be a serious backlash. But if things stay that way, what will the people who saved up capped gil do? They all saved it up in preparation for relic weapons or something similar.
Even if people don't care about gil at all, if 3 people flood 999,999,999 gil into the economy its going to have a noticeable effect.

At some point there will have to be that "epic" gear that stays epic for years. And that is when serious problems will arise.

This whole argument is ridiculous. OP originally started by saying that "Fresh Start Servers" would not work because of {insert poorly constructed argument here}.

So what is gonna happen when they need to introduce new worlds because existing worlds are at capacity? Do you think we're going to stay at 10 servers indefinitely, just because SE doesn't want things to turn out the way that Azurymber thought they might back in that one thread? If the game becomes popular and successful, are we all going to run around with server lag so bad because we have 50,000 ppl logged in at one time? No, MMO's add new worlds/servers all the time.

FFXIV economy will always balance out, because the ability to gain money through leves and quests are a constant, and the rest of it is based on supply and demand.

The only thing that will cause the in-game economy to spiral out of control is Gil-sellers. That is the only potential problem here, not new servers.

Originally Posted by Bharata_Senka

This whole argument is ridiculous. OP originally started by saying that "Fresh Start Servers" would not work because of {insert poorly constructed argument here}.

So what is gonna happen when they need to introduce new worlds because existing worlds are at capacity? Do you think we're going to stay at 10 servers indefinitely, just because SE doesn't want things to turn out the way that Azurymber thought they might back in that one thread? If the game becomes popular and successful, are we all going to run around with server lag so bad because we have 50,000 ppl logged in at one time? No, MMO's add new worlds/servers all the time.

FFXIV economy will always balance out, because the ability to gain money through leves and quests are a constant, and the rest of it is based on supply and demand.

The only thing that will cause the in-game economy to spiral out of control is Gil-sellers. That is the only potential problem here, not new servers.

I explained this fairly clearly.
FFXIVs economy will -never- balance out.
Why?
Old servers currently have lets say 5000 mil
new servers have none

so day 1:
1mil goes into economy, 500k comes out

old server: 5000mil 500k
new server: 500k

a month later:
old server: 5015mil
new server: 15mil

Both servers will increase gil at the same amount on average. But theres no reason why new ones would reach the amount of gil in old ones.

Originally Posted by Firon

Just stop posting please that makes no sense does not matter if server 2 only has 150 mil total cause it will be balanced for them.

I realize for -them- it will be balanced in the sense of supply + demand.

My point is, if SE tries to fix the OTHER broken economy, lets say via gil-sinks, it will UNBALANCE the non-broken one.

So if server A has inflation and server B is balanced, the policies to fix inflation on server A would -hurt- server B's economy

I don't know how much clearer I can be about this.

Originally Posted by Azurymber

I realize for -them- it will be balanced in the sense of supply + demand.

My point is, if SE tries to fix the OTHER broken economy, lets say via gil-sinks, it will UNBALANCE the non-broken one.

So if server A has inflation and server B is balanced, the policies to fix inflation on server A would -hurt- server B's economy

I don't know how much clearer I can be about this.

Don't you think if they were to open a fresh start server that they would recognize that? You act like they would just create a new server and totally ignore this factor. In fact, they already do this today with server populations and that is what the merger was based on. Also, they are flirting with the idea of making supply rating based on server.

Anyway, what this OP really does is make a mountain out of a very hypothetical situation, and on top of that, totally makes an assumption that SE would not acknowledge it out the door.

I remember you. You took a break for a while didn't you? I know you probably feel like you're a great addition to any community because when you do post a new OP you strike pretty long discussion. However, it's not long because it's interesting, or very divided, or even remotely intellectual. It usually is made up of ridiculous statements you try to pass off as fact and the rest of the way people trying to let you know how ridiculous you are, FFXI nostalgia driven, or thick. It actually brings back memories to a day where the community was a lot more obnoxious than it is now. Perhaps it is very tragic foreshadowing for 2.0.