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  1. #31
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    Khara Relanah
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    I have a nice Ishgardian mansion and a solo FC in Kugane. I'm also totally in favor of instanced housing provided they do it alongside wards and not instead of them. One simple reason: other people having more does not mean I have less. As long as you're not taking away my land, you can create all the land you want and give it to everyone, and I'll be happy to see them smile.
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    I just know if they implemented instanced housing where I could purchase the equivalent to the large I own in the housing district, I'd demolish my ward house and just buy instanced. There. Frees up a house for someone who prefers the wards.

    In other words: It is a good solution and I wish we'd get some feedback as to why it's not feasible but giving everyone entire islands for Island Sanctuary is.
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    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

  3. #33
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    R'ahlin Taka
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhudusQestir View Post
    Literally feels like you're just here to argue with nothing to provide.
    1.I'm not saying "Give Up". If I was, I would have typed that. I am pointing out that your desire for "instant housing" which should be INSTANCED, not INSTANT, is not going to happen, purely because SE makes more money with the system as it currently is. You're failing to see that (or choosing to ignore the fact that SE is a company known for its stubborn nature and its greed) and acting as if anyone pointing it out is trolling or a "quitter". Which is untrue in every aspect. Like I said in my first post on this thread, I would very much prefer people get housing so nobody is left out. But I know that won't happen, because SE is at the wheel. Many people before you have brought this up. Many people before you have spent every ounce of energy trying to fight for it. Many people before you have failed in doing so. To continue to fight for something, in some herculean delusion that it'll change makes you insane.

    2. No. You're not "Fighting for hundreds and hundreds of people". You are part of a very vocal minority that demand change because they couldn't get what they want. That's not a bad thing, as the systems in place (especially with Lottery making it even easier to get involved.. Whole can of worms for another thread, methinks) certainly aren't on your side. But anyone / everyone that champions this "instanced housing or riot" argument continue to ignore what answers you've been given. (I know of ONE person that recognizes those answers and thats Jojoya)

    When Lottery was introduced, XIV showed that they know there's an issue. They probably also looked into this very forum to see for ideas, or general guideposts. They chose Lottery because thats what people were screaming for. Now that Lottery was added, as per their requests, people hate it. Despite them being the reason it was introduced in the first place. I stand by my previous comments months ago, actively stating that Lottery won't help anyone and, shocker, It didn't. Your desire will not be met, so long as SE holds stubbornly to their "Neighborhood" desire for housing. Constantly calling each other trolls or going at each others throats for differing opinions doesn't help.

    And, so long as SE remains that grip on Neighborhoods, your desire for INSTANCED housing is dead in the water. We can't really force SE to change their mind and constantly berating each other is never going to help. They need to fix the supply.. Granted, fixing the supply involves Instanced housing, since even with their upgraded servers and such, there's only so many wards the game can really handle per server before something snaps.

    But the fact that "instanced housing" is the answer, it comes with a whole massive list of issues. Such as trying to make Instanced Housing in such a way that the Ward houses keep their appeal. Many people have discussed how ward houses keep said appeal and it differs, varying from "you can visit it in the real game world" to "making instanced housing have reduced crossbreeding". There's no clear consensus as to what people want outside of a house and by golly, they seem to want to do literally anything to get one. It's not so clear cut than people think.

    And before any snarky comment about "Ward housing appeal". It's the older system, that SE wants to maintain. You best bet they want to keep the people who already own a house locked into that house. If Instanced housing was deemed "better" then SE loses out. No company would take that deal.
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    Last edited by Kenky; 07-12-2022 at 04:38 AM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by MultihouseHoarder View Post
    And instanced housing would be inferior to ward housing if ward housing were to remain in tandem with instanced. Yes, wanters want what they can't have, and they will continue to want ward housing if it exists, and they only have the instanced housing.
    That instanced housing would be inferior depends on how SE designs it.

    If they moved RIFT Dimensions into FFXIV, I wouldn't hesitate to give up my ward house. That was hands down the best housing system I've experienced in a MMO. For those who talk about "wanting a neighborhood feeling" some of the RIFT Dimensions were big enough to build your own neighborhood with multiple friends (I built an entire village in one with multiple houses, school, restaurant, town hall, park with pond, etc.).

    It's true that some people get an obsessive desire for things they cannot have but it is not true of a majority of people let alone everyone. Most players would be more than happy with an instanced system done well. Even if they already own a plot, they're tired of living in ghost towns with almost no activity. Those players moving into an instanced system would free up plots for those who see a benefit to owning a ward house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    1.I'm not saying "Give Up". If I was, I would have typed that.
    What you're saying is what I'm attempting is pointless. If what I'm doing is pointless then what would your suggestion be if not to 'give up'?


    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    I am pointing out that your desire for "instant housing" which should be INSTANCED, not INSTANT,
    You know, it would be appreciated if you didn't go off my title alone and actually read the first post. Attacking me on my typo isn't going to win your argument either...
    I just won't take you seriously since you want to start getting disrespectful with me by treating my small mistake like I'm stupid. Idk how you think I'd be ok with that but no, I'm not.I would say you are more stupid yourself for thinking I need that pointed out. Especially when it's already pointed out in the first post.

    It's bad enough you're walking all in this forum being a huge negative nancy and attacking my idea and claiming you're not telling me to give up... I still question why you're in here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    When Lottery was introduced, XIV showed that they know there was an issue. They probably also looked into this very forum to see for ideas, or general guideposts. They chose Lottery because thats what people were screaming for.
    Oh, well I guess I'll continue since it seems it worked to make the lottery. We tried it and it's showing how much bigger of an issue it is. We need a new solution instead of "Oh, well since that failed. Let's give up."
    Again, if you're not telling me to give up, what is the point of you being in here?
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    Last edited by KhudusQestir; 07-13-2022 at 06:17 AM.

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