Please let us queue with our friends in CC

[KhudusQestir]

to prove how wintrading would work. Let's say they put team casual queues in for 6.2, just in time for the new series. Here's what would happen : 10 people would team up together at odd hours, let's say 4 am. They would take turns throwing matches by not stopping the crystal. Matches would take about 1min30. They'd get all their series maxed after 2 hours, get all their Garo mounts and achievements. Or they would just run it over and over to cap their weekly tomestones in an hour or get XP.

This example confused me. Are we talking about 10 people queuing together? Idk how to reply to this since I don't understand your argument on how people are queuing together to cheat.
Regardless...
The more I read from you the more I feel your argument is all about winning. Casual matches shouldn't be about winning. Let's stop talking about wins... I already went over how to fix the skill system. My argument has and still is on casual matches that it shouldn't be about winning, it should be about having fun and playing. Playing with your friends should be a major part of that. If you want to make a BIG deal about wins so badly, take it to the ranks where it should be about taking it seriously.

[ICountFrom0]

Another topic wining that they can't be carried by friends on voice chat and it's not fair that they have to get gud by themselves?
Me, I know I'm horrible at it, but I don't blame my failure on not being allowed to be carried by my friends

[KhudusQestir]

Another topic wining that they can't be carried by friends on voice chat and it's not fair that they have to get gud by themselves?
Me, I know I'm horrible at it, but I don't blame my failure on not being allowed to be carried by my friends

I don't think you read the topic cause that's not the argument.
I joined this game so I can play with friends, not play with a bunch of random people who I don't know. I even said in my previous post before this that I don't care about wins, I just want to play with my friends.

[OskarXCI]

There aren't enough players in order to have a queue for premade vs. premade. If they were to implement it they would need to limit the hours in which the queue is available or else people will just play during odd hours and do win-trading like GordonGeeko said. I think they also said in the latest Live Letter that they will do adjustments to matchmaking so queue synching will be harder to do. (Queue synching = queue at the same time so you have a higher chance being on the same team.).

They did have one season of The Feast where only premade teams were allowed. It died pretty quickly. Very few people bothered with it.

If you really want to play CC with your friends, the best you can hope for is that the upcoming official European Cup is a success, and they do more tournaments in the future. There are also several discords that do unofficial tournaments all the time.

[KhudusQestir]

There aren't enough players in order to have a queue for premade vs. premade.

FFXIV is the largest MMO community. There are plenty of players. My queue time never lasts longer than 5 minutes.

I said it before, and I'll say it again. If PvP was more fun and enjoyable, the PvP community wouldn't be so small.
Plenty of people enjoy getting competitive. Allow people to join with their friends and you can get more in queue.

[ThaCa]

Casual should have no limits tbh, it already places everyone from fresh unranked first timers to top end Crystal players in same matches. Since there's basically no balance in first place it should just let people queue up as groups.

If people want to avoid groups they could always just play ranked. It's not like low level ranked is competitive in anyway.

[ShinyChariot]

I would like this to be added to the game purely to see people complaining about pre-made bot teams and elite players griefing and never letting them win. Team ranked will certainly give more control to those sort of people that win trade and do shady things like that. Not to mention RMT and people that buy ranks might also be able use this.

Nothing's a pure and outright solution, it's always a trade-off. You get this nice thing you ask for with good intentions, almost always someone's going to get the short end of the stick. Even if it's casual team matching, someone will always find a way to complain about it. The PvP "Static" drama stories are going to be delicious.

[ShinyChariot]

I don't think you read the topic cause that's not the argument.
I joined this game so I can play with friends, not play with a bunch of random people who I don't know. I even said in my previous post before this that I don't care about wins, I just want to play with my friends.

Playing with friends is fun.

Winning with your friends is better.

Some humans will do disgusting dishonest things to win. That's how deep it is to the human condition, especially in a video game.

It's sort of self-centered to stubbornly insist the focus of the topic not be on winning and tell everyone who mentions it not to talk about it. If you're going to dismiss everyone who enjoys winning in a PvP mode, which is worthless if there isn't any sort of pleasure derived from being skilled and good at the game and therefore victorious, you might be out of touch with a majority of PvPers, instead you should accept their motivations and goals when playing PvP. Because you can't have a discussion about a topic by ignoring everything you don't like and don't want to talk about and telling people they say only the things you want to hear.

[KhudusQestir]

Playing with friends is fun.

Winning with your friends is better.

Some humans will do disgusting dishonest things to win. That's how deep it is to the human condition, especially in a video game.

It's sort of self-centered to stubbornly insist the focus of the topic not be on winning and tell everyone who mentions it not to talk about it. If you're going to dismiss everyone who enjoys winning in a PvP mode, which is worthless if there isn't any sort of pleasure derived from being skilled and good at the game and therefore victorious, you might be out of touch with a majority of PvPers, instead you should accept their motivations and goals when playing PvP. Because you can't have a discussion about a topic by ignoring everything you don't like and don't want to talk about and telling people they say only the things you want to hear.

Ok, fine. Fair argument. I'll admit I'm wrong there.

I would like this to be added to the game purely to see people complaining about pre-made bot teams and elite players griefing and never letting them win. Team ranked will certainly give more control to those sort of people that win trade and do shady things like that. Not to mention RMT and people that buy ranks might also be able use this.

Nothing's a pure and outright solution, it's always a trade-off. You get this nice thing you ask for with good intentions, almost always someone's going to get the short end of the stick. Even if it's casual team matching, someone will always find a way to complain about it. The PvP "Static" drama stories are going to be delicious.

Ok, so you agree to this notion that all players should be punished simply because of a certain amount of players?
Can I ask you why you think that's fair?
And why not come up with another solution instead?

[SweetPete]

This is very sensitive topic to be honest. On one hand I’ve done the countdown thing with friends and ended up on the same team and we just slaughter teams together for hours on in. Then on the other hand when it happens to me and I’m ganged up on by 2-3 friends who obviously managed to get on the same team it’s not very fun lol.

I think casual should stay solo but maybe make another option for casual play but being able to que with someone else. That way you will que with others who que together and it will be more fair.