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  1. #11
    Player
    Osmond's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Danielle Osmond
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    The model is still there, haven't truly gotten away from it, it's just not as obvious or important as it used to be. Mirror matches can proc, but it'll just fall back on skill, but then it's ehh. Just take down 1-2 and you have the advantage so it's just a numbers game with a chance of a comeback if you guess correctly because you can't truly communicate with other players.......other than 3rd party apps....that's pointless to have due to random players comp via solo que.
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    Sherlissa Holmesy
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Perhaps think carefully why the devs chose to move away from that model, and why it's made pvp so much more popular...
    Another model, Another goal, simplier jobs, bigger problems.
    Seems like this so far.

    I mean I can't rly understand you, coz if skill is equal then classes win (not even jobs), right?
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  3. #13
    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Grinning Serpent
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Holmesy View Post
    What "skill" do you need on bard (for example) if you don't have any dmg vs melee? You do not have hp, and you are only dps here? Team skill? Good luck then, team skill will be more revealing with normal team balance.
    Bard has plenty of damage vs melee.
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  4. #14
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    Petite Poutine
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Holmesy View Post
    You probably didn't have games where you simply can't oppose anything to the other team.
    Everyone deals with the same matchmaking, job roster, maps, map hazards, respawn timers, overtime rules etc. Everyone has been trounced so hard they started questionning their own skills, just like everyone has won matches effortlessly. That's the nature of Solo queue team modes.

    You should accept this fact until ranked Light Party queuing gets added or move on.
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    Last edited by Petite; 07-08-2022 at 07:08 AM.

  5. #15
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    Menriq's Avatar
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    Character
    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    Bard has plenty of damage vs melee.
    BRD used to be able to hold their own with mDPS, but with the 6.18 changes, mDPS is able to survive and keep close to the BRD, thus nullifying the damage BRD does. AFAIK, it's the only job that has a requirement to stay at ranged to be do max damage on their main DPS skill.
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    Xel Xelpht
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    CC isn't Feast, using the argument that leveling the playing field would increase play times is nothing but a pathetic strawman argument.

    The fact is they could easily fix issues, but since CC has 100000's players more than Feast ever did they won't, because why put in effort, when the numbers prove you don't need to?
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  7. #17
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    Sherlissa Holmesy
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    Everyone deals with the same matchmaking, job roster, maps, map hazards, respawn timers, overtime rules etc. Everyone has been trounced so hard they started questionning their own skills, just like everyone has won matches effortlessly. That's the nature of Solo queue team modes.

    You should accept this fact until ranked Light Party queuing gets added or move on.
    I don't want Light party, I just want to play normal and with out 30 sec games, where there is no skill, coz your classes do everything for you.
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  8. #18
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    Petite Poutine
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Holmesy View Post
    I don't want Light party, I just want to play normal and with out 30 sec games, where there is no skill, coz your classes do everything for you.
    This is solo queue. Start praying for snow in Fiji.
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  9. #19
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    Ophelia Irika
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Restrict the queues for balance while demoting is nonexistent, and I'll guarantee you that the queues will die from the bottom up.
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  10. #20
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Holmesy View Post
    Another model, Another goal, simplier jobs, bigger problems.
    Seems like this so far.

    I mean I can't rly understand you, coz if skill is equal then classes win (not even jobs), right?
    So.

    We go back to old feast model, then? Queues die because no one wants to play healers? And maybe you take out healers and then what, queues die because no tanks?

    So you take out healers and tanks and you have all DPS matches and... ah, wait, that sounds an awful lot like what we have now.
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