Building a better Alphinaud

[aveyond-dreams]

Well given how boring the setting and how badly handled the story has become then these characters appear to be serving their intended purpose well after all.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Well given how boring the setting and how badly handled the story has become then these characters appear to be serving their intended purpose well after all.

Subjective opinion, one I know others share.
But there are Other people including myself that dont feel the same way.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[aveyond-dreams]

Subjective opinion, one I know others share.
Other people and myself dont feel the same way.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And I wonder whether that opinion would change if you were to consume other stories and media.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

And I wonder whether that opinion would change if you were to consume other stories and media.

I have...Ive played more games then FFXIV. I just named Mass Effect and a handful of Characters from Dragonage.
Surely you didnt miss that, or did you just ignore it?
Does my enjoyment of FFXIV cloud the idea that Ive ever touched another game, read a book or saw a movie?
Pretty silly

[CrownySuccubus]

And I wonder whether that opinion would change if you were to consume other stories and media.

I can say I've consumed pretty much all of the stories and media you have. Or, at least the ones mentioned in this thread. While FFXIV cast aren't exactly a master class, they're pretty memorable. I'm sure you disagree, but that disagreement is not an objective opinion.

Not that it's all that important, either way. The Lunar RPG series had some of the most cliched characters ever, and I doubt anyone here could even name all of them without Googling it. But they were enjoyable for what they were, and the game is still a classic.

[Avidria]

And I wonder whether that opinion would change if you were to consume other stories and media.

Not particularly.

I've played and watched playthroughs of plenty of story games, some of which I'd genuinely call masterpieces of storytelling, and I still enjoyed the majority of the Endwalker MSQ. Would I call IT a masterpiece? No. It had it's flaws, imo the worst being odd pacing, uninteresting villains early on (specifically Zenos and Fandaniel for a fair chunk of it), and frankly a too long list of characters - too long to do most of them justice. But I still enjoyed the story overall, and I still actually like almost all of the Scions.

...and the one I don't like is Krile. So.

[TaleraRistain]

And I wonder whether that opinion would change if you were to consume other stories and media.

Aveyond, you're the one that often comes off as not being exposed to other stories or media a lot of the time because you have this insistence that things always have to be a certain way or they're wrong, instead of appreciating them for what they are and finding the good points in them. For instance, IX is my absolute favorite Final Fantasy. It is the essence of Final Fantasy for me. But I can appreciate that XIV is not IX and shouldn't try to just be IX. XIV is its own thing. Do I agree with every narrative choice? No. But there are a lot of things where that happens and it's fine if we don't agree but that isn't the same as being badly written.

[aveyond-dreams]

Having played those games you should able to realize what they did right and what FFXIV is doing wrong.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Having played those games you should able to realize what they did right and what FFXIV is doing wrong.

So...does that mean I should just hate FFXIV?
If you ever read my other posts in other threads, I have said there has been fair criticism of FFXIVs storytelling.
Its not perfect, then again nothing is perfect, but there are still things to be enjoyed. And despite flaws you can still like and enjoy something, even if that something isn't liked by others.
Regardless of what FFXIV is doing wrong, I still enjoy the game and am ever curious to see where it goes next.
For me, it has not hit that point that Im ready to discard it and just put it down.

[Theodric]

I'm reminded of the male viera thread and how, when some of us decided to politely request a broad height and muscle slider as a compromise for the wide variety of different personal tastes the idea was repeatedly shot down. Interestingly enough by some of the same posters who come into story threads to start inane arguments, hurl bizarre insinuations around and generally strive to stamp out any calls for variety when it comes to literally any aspect of the game.

It's an interesting trend some of us have cottoned on to - and a similar tactic deployed by social media mobs.