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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    But, hey, if you want FFXIV to go the same way as WoW in regards to stripping away all mention of 'male' and female' in favour of 'body 1' and 'body 2' then be my guest. I don't think more than a very vocal minority desire that, though.
    I don't think anyone's asking for gender to be removed from the game entirely. When I brought up trans characters earlier, it was an offhand suggestion about Y'shtola having transitioned from male to female while she was studying with Matoya, and I don't believe anyone else has mentioned them specifically (as opposed to part of the LGBT grouping). Saying that people want to remove all mention of "male" and "female" is not based on any argument in this thread or that I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I think that's rather disingenuous. There's a big difference between requesting more of a common aesthetic and one a large portion of players can relate to...and embracing the sort of niche aesthetics that Twitter dwellers fawn over.
    You should really figure out if you’re arguing this point from a “minority in need of representation” perspective or an “underserved majority” perspective. Trying to use both arguments at the same time just makes you come across as disingenuous.

    Good on WoW, btw. Would be cool if FFXIV could do that, too.
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  3. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus
    Also, here we go again with the attempts to poison the well. Apparently, people who disagree are “Twitter dwellers”, and that’s supposed to also be an inherently bad thing.
    We have to quote the famous Final Fantasy streamer Zenos here and say "No No No No No!" rings the bell

    Writing against the cause of us is disingenius. As suporter of monarchy in the game kingdom can use the royal we. There is a big amount of the player who is not happy with the story. We do not know number or have the proof but it is big we can feel it. The story must have the naunce so that the good guy is look as bad and the bad guy is look as good. Also the good guy must sacrifice friends so that can know the suffering like the Game of the Thrones. We will tell the writer when we happy the hero character has suffer enough to pay for crime of resisting our cause.

    We try to explain the problem on the forum on all of the thread at the same time. But we are always under the attack and pressure by the Twitter crowd and the Reddit crowd and the Wattpad crowd and the Pinterest crowd and the Whatisup crowd and the TickTock crowd and the forum paladins who want to defend the Yoshi's Island Sanctuary due to his crepe personality cult. It is like the university student with the expensive coffee and the burger and the pretend progressive idea.

    It is like the comic where the people say this is our myspace and the other people come in to invade the myspace and take over. This is what happened with the Garlemald from the Eorzea who tried to take the land. You must agree to agree even if you disagree. Please is for sake of correcting the course of the story to one where the Ascian and the Garlemald and the Fordola and the Hein rejoin world and be hero of next expansion to replace the Scion.

    Otherwise will be like the failed Warcraft direction with the Sylphinas and burning of Teldrassil and game will go extinct because we do not like. This is predict because we can see future and know what make the game good unlike game maker. The Square need the support of us to win or they will lose.
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  4. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus View Post
    “Twitter dwellers”, and that’s supposed to also be an inherently bad thing.
    Twitter is a cesspool of rage and ignorance. Whether you are one of those people or not, I cannot say, and I won't make that assumption. But it's full of them. Twitter was a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  5. #275
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Twitter is a cesspool of rage and ignorance. Whether you are one of those people or not, I cannot say, and I won't make that assumption. But it's full of them. Twitter was a mistake.
    I just don't really agree with this claim I've seen that the forums are so horrible as a place to gather feedback, so SE is justified in ignoring it. When other platforms can be similar or worse in terms of feedback. Even if the forums were as bad as some claim, I don't believe that is justification in potentially ignoring the entire platform!

    Also, speaking of Twitter, just the other day, I saw some questionable hashtags trending, it was pretty funny actually.
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  6. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I just don't really agree with this claim I've seen that the forums are so horrible as a place to gather feedback, so SE is justified in ignoring it. When other platforms can be similar or worse in terms of feedback. Even if the forums were as bad as some claim, I don't believe that is justification in potentially ignoring the entire platform!

    Also, speaking of Twitter, just the other day, I saw some questionable hashtags trending, it was pretty funny actually.
    I think that SE is right to ignore some of what is seen around here, but certainly not all of it. Good ideas/feedback does pop up pretty regularly. It just gets lost in the chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I think that SE is right to ignore some of what is seen around here, but certainly not all of it. Good ideas/feedback does pop up pretty regularly. It just gets lost in the chaos.
    I think there is some merit in even some of the rage posts. Certainly not everything should listened to, especially things filled with vitriol, but asking themselves why users so upset, can also be a good thing. A lot of this "chaos" happens, because they aren't communicating, or being as hands on.
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  8. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    A lot of this "chaos" happens, because they aren't communicating, or being as hands on.
    Oh, absolutely. It's a two way street, or at least it's supposed to be. Right now, we're doing all the talking and they are giving us complete radio silence. It has been that way for a long, long time, and I think that a lot of people, myself included, are getting fed up with it. Even when they do respond to something, they don't seem to really hear us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  9. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Twitter is a cesspool of rage and ignorance. Whether you are one of those people or not, I cannot say, and I won't make that assumption. But it's full of them. Twitter was a mistake.
    Sure, a lot of it is, but the issue here is that Theodric's argument paints the group that disagrees with him as part of the "Twitter mob" or whatever, without specification. Twitter (and all social media) is used by a wide range of people with every belief on the spectrum and arguments both informed and ignorant. Also, just pointing and essentially claiming "Typical Twitter logic" is itself an argument that people on Twitter make.
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    I see my decision to place the above two posters on ignore proved to be the correct one. I appreciate the heads up from a friend letting me know that false, defamatory comments are being made and words are being twisted deceptively.

    All I'll say on the matter is that I've never suggested that the development team deserve to be harassed.

    Whatever weird issue certain posters have with me or my posts, please stop dragging it into every other thread and keep the conversation related to the actual subject of this thread - Alphinaud.

    Thanks!
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    Last edited by Theodric; 07-18-2022 at 12:34 AM.

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