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    How convenient that you left out both Eulmore and Garlemald. They've turned 4 unique nation states into cooker cutter democracies over the course of Season 1. Once would've been tolerable, twice would've been questionable, but this? And of what little other monarchies or unique systems remain, half of them have had any intrigue and grit stripped from them or were otherwise left behind in regions of the world like the far east that we won't be visiting again any time soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    How convenient that you left out both Eulmore and Garlemald.They've turned 4 unique nation states into cooker cutter democracies over the course of Season 1. Once would've been tolerable, twice would've been questionable, but this? And of what little other monarchies or unique systems remain, half of them have had any intrigue and grit stripped from them or were otherwise left behind in regions of the world like the far east that we won't be visiting again any time soon.
    This argument is even further ridiculous, because the Scions had NOTHING to do with either of them becoming republics. In Eulmore, they didn't tell the people to elect a new Mayor; the citizens did that on their own. In the case of Garlemald, the Scions did literally NOTHING. They didn't kill the dictator, they didn't kill the royal family, and they didn't decide not to form a new monarchy. The people did that all on their own. Hell, even in the case of Gyr Abania, blaming the Scions makes no sense because the first question Lyse asked was if anybody else wanted the throne, and all of them said no.

    The fact that you continuously blame the Scions for this makes it pretty clear that your argument here isn't to actually bring up legitimate issues. Your goal is to add another reason to "hate" the Scions for no reason in particular, and it doesn't matter how far you need to reach to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Not everything has to be so cookie cutter and samey.
    Once again:

    "Another monarchy - vArIeTy!"

    "Democracies - sAmEy!"
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    I hit post before I was done, this website isn't exactly convinent to use on phone.

    And again, if you can't think of how a nascent republic filled with people who are longing for the glory days of the Empire could have any grit or intrigue, I'm afraid that's just a failure of your imagination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    I hit post before I was done, this website isn't exactly convinent to use on phone.

    And again, if you can't think of how a nascent republic filled with people who are longing for the glory days of the Empire could have any grit or intrigue, I'm afraid that's just a failure of your imagination.
    You mean with a plot that sees Garlemald return to monarchy and empire under the leadership of a new Emperor after growing displeased with the lackluster performance of a faceless senate? Brilliant! Sign me up for that expansion any day. Seeing the Garlean provisional government fall to pieces would fill me with much joy. Not everything has to be so cookie cutter and samey.

    The spread of Sharlayan democracy has shaped our history for long enough! Bonus: Alphinaud will be unable to do anything about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    You mean with a plot that sees Garlemald return to monarchy and empire under the leadership of a new Emperor after growing displeased with the lackluster performance of a faceless senate? Brilliant! Sign me up for that expansion any day. Seeing the Garlean provisional government fall to pieces would fill me with much joy. Not everything has to be so cookie cutter and samey.
    I mean, I wouldn't frame it in such glowing terms - but yeah, I could see a faction of bitter aristocrats who missed the power and influence they wielded in the Empire formenting a reactionary movement to prop up a new Emperor and Restore The Glorious Days Of The Empire. I'd be totally down with the Neo-Garlean-Empire being a major story antagonist a few expansions in the future.

    But you kind of need to abolish a monarchy first to do a "faction attempting to restore the monarchy" storyline.

    The spread of Sharlayan democracy has shaped our history for long enough! Bonus: Alphinaud will be unable to do anything about it.
    Yeah they'd probably sound something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    I mean, I wouldn't frame it in such glowing terms - but yeah, I could see a faction of bitter aristocrats who missed the power and influence they wielded in the Empire formenting a reactionary movement to prop up a new Emperor and Restore The Glorious Days Of The Empire. I'd be totally down with the Neo-Garlean-Empire being a major story antagonist a few expansions in the future.

    But you kind of need to abolish a monarchy first to do a "faction attempting to restore the monarchy" storyline.


    Yeah they'd probably sound something like that.
    How exactly would they even do that with the lack of resources or even land. Or would they pull a Star Wars episode 9 and all of a sudden they have a mass fleet come from the underground that no one knew about xD

    Jokes aside though, wouldn't that just turn into...the same Empire scenario we've had for years? Ie "more samey" as he put it for other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    How exactly would they even do that with the lack of resources or even land. Or would they pull a Star Wars episode 9 and all of a sudden they have a mass fleet come from the underground that no one knew about xD

    Jokes aside though, wouldn't that just turn into...the same Empire scenario we've had for years? Ie "more samey" as he put it for other things.
    I think it'd have to be a fairly popular movement - maybe Garlemald's pro monarchy factions holds onto a few provinces we hadn't been to and rebuilds thier power base. Maybe they have allies in other nations helping them (a member of the syndicate who misses the good old days of war profiteering?) I think it could work, and I'm not super married to the idea or anything.

    I do agree it runs the risk of just seeming like a rehash, which is why I'd want them to wait a few expansions before doing it, give the player base long enough to start looking back as the Empire As Villians with some nostalgia.
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    You do realize that characters like Fordola are a decently popular request to join the main party, right? There are easily more fans of hers than of the twins anyway. I can only wonder why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    There are easily more fans of hers than of the twins anyway. I can only wonder why.
    Okay, you are going to need to cite your sources on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    Okay, you are going to need to cite your sources on that one.
    Yeah. I've heard a lot of requests, but this is definitely the first time I've heard of this one.
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