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    Player
    MarsyCurXi's Avatar
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    Fure Kinmokuse
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    Ixion
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    Reaper Lv 90

    let me tell u guys “Win-trading”

    Based on what you know, you would think the process would look like this. I have a DRG here and I have a DRG here.

    My DRG is playing well!

    The DRG on the other side sucks...

    The DRG on the other side just quit the game.

    This is a “win-trading”?

    yes,but let me say the other way.
    I won't say who he is.

    But let me tell you how he got here.

    This is a gang of more than 10 people.
    To do RMT behavior on ** server, tell people how stable he can be without being banned.

    They would start in the wee hours of the morning when there were very few people, have one person start the match, and when the match was made, he wouldn't click confirm.

    At that point, everyone else will match together.
    bomb A new competition appeared.
    Then they play around, as long as the character destined to score high doesn't have bad numbers.

    Then, lest anyone doubt it, he will play some normal games.

    For the record, these people are not newbies, they are just efficient RMT seekers



    Anyone who saw him in a normal game would praise him and think he was "awesome."

    Because he plays BLM, people don't deepen their suspicion because the "job" is so meta right now.

    Are they in the minority?

    NO!!!!!!NO!!!!!!NO!!!!!!
    There are about 20 of them in GAIA and MANA! All in the top 30 and top 10, even number one.

    I reported it three times. These people still use this way to ”Ranked up”.



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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I think there's also separate report on SQEX website somewhere, I recommend gathering all the possible evidence and reporting them and if others have met them and have anything from screenshots to personal experience then have them also report them.

    It might seem like an uphill battle but they have removed cheating top 1 from some NA datacenter and also another wintrader from EU datacenter, so they can do something at least about the most obvious ones.

    Not sure how hard it is to catch a bigger group doing this, but keep trying, don't let the cheaters get away with it.
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    MarsyCurXi's Avatar
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    I've tried a lot of things to prove it, times of play, m.O. It all seems to come down to a lack of evidence.

    It's almost impossible to gather evidence. They're fixed, but you don't know the exact time.

    I only have access to one of them, and the rest of the gang doesn't have open access.

    I'm Posting this post just to show that there is a cheating problem, and if the upcoming update allows all servers to match together, it will fix the problem.
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    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    Jock Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Can't believe Mana have these win-trading, such an embarrassment
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    If you cant prove they are cheating you definetly have a skill issue.

    Just Git good

    /S
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    Player
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    Fure Kinmokuse
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    Ixion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    If you cant prove they are cheating you definetly have a skill issue.

    Just Git good

    /S
    I don't know what you're talking about. You can't match any of these guys. And I want you to see my ranking and how many times I play.

    My evidence is absolutely overwhelming, but can you tell the Oscar actors that they're not acting properly?
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    Player SeiyaSoiya's Avatar
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
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    Marilith
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    this wouldn't be an issue if the game mode was populated and there were many people queuing for the game mode at all times of the day
    but guess what, they messed up again and now it's dead at the end of the season, making win trading much easier
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    Viz Vale
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    Spriggan
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    Sage Lv 90
    Your suppossed win trader has kills and assists?
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    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Your suppossed win trader has kills and assists?
    I know what you're describing. They do. They don't care about time. They care about results. If you were in a match, which is unlikely, you would see all the normal players do, except for one thing, which is that the "player" would win all the time, then lose a game or two on a regular basis to avoid arousing suspicion.

    Speaking of which, why do I doubt it?



    First of all, like I said at the beginning, they never play during normal hours, have a fixed win rate, and never lose points when leaderboards are updated.

    Second, start the game at a ETtime. It's basically integer time.

    And how they show off their "skills" without reservation on VCAPP.
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    Petite Poutine
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    These people gross me out.

    I can only imagine the problem getting worse once SE adds gear/mounts to the top 100.

    GMs should be given more autonomy by SE to better deal with wintrading cases. Having heard from ex-GM posts from multiple MMOs before, I know the scope of what they can do is incredibly limited.
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    Last edited by Petite; 07-05-2022 at 07:45 AM.

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