Kaiten

[Rilifane]

I do think making the fire IV rotation a aoe would be actually not that bad. It’s a insane looking cast that has umph behind it. The aoe rotation is expect flare pretty whatever and you could still use flare before fire IV

It would make a lot more sense to merge Fire III and High Fire as both grant AF 3/ refresh the timer, Blizzard III and High Blizzard for the same reason but with UI3, Freeze and Blizzard IV as both don't grant UI/ refresh the timer but instead grant 3 Umbreal Hearts. And, as mentioned, Foul and Xeno as they're functionally the same once Foul gets the trait. Flare and Despair also work because both are your finisher and the merged skill still get used only once for single target but twice or more with MF/ Ether for aoe.
Fire IV is the only skill that shouldn't be merged with anything as it has a unique spot by not refreshing the timer while providing highest potency outside Polyglot skills and Despair.

[Mortex]

It would make a lot more sense to merge Fire III and High Fire as both grant AF 3/ refresh the timer, Blizzard III and High Blizzard for the same reason but with UI3, Freeze and Blizzard IV as both don't grant UI/ refresh the timer but instead grant 3 Umbreal Hearts. And, as mentioned, Foul and Xeno as they're functionally the same once Foul gets the trait. Flare and Despair also work because both are your finisher and the merged skill still get used only once for single target but twice or more with MF/ Ether for aoe.
Fire IV is the only skill that shouldn't be merged with anything as it has a unique spot by not refreshing the timer while providing highest potency outside Polyglot skills and Despair.

Yeah sounds about right. But the point stands still that you can fuse abilities for button bloat but they rather remove kaiten then fuse abilities

[Rilifane]

Yeah sounds about right. But the point stands still that you can fuse abilities for button bloat but they rather remove kaiten then fuse abilities

And it's especially bad when the reason for it was button/ action bloat. It didn't do anything against action bloat and button bloat can be solved in far more elegant ways. BLM has 6 buttons that could easily be merged without losing any nuance or complexity. 6 buttons. And other classes have far more that could easily be merged/ adjusted.

[Mortex]

And it's especially bad when the reason for it was button/ action bloat. It didn't do anything against action bloat and button bloat can be solved in far more elegant ways. BLM has 6 buttons that could easily be merged without losing any nuance or complexity. 6 buttons. And other classes have far more that could easily be merged/ adjusted.

Final fantasy IVX job design team in a nutshell. Rather then do some fusion, they cut out iconic abilities like kaiten now. Same as eye for a eye, disable and a lot other cool abilities.

[LeonKeyh]

And it's especially bad when the reason for it was button/ action bloat. It didn't do anything against action bloat and button bloat can be solved in far more elegant ways. BLM has 6 buttons that could easily be merged without losing any nuance or complexity. 6 buttons. And other classes have far more that could easily be merged/ adjusted.

What do you mean it didn't do anything!? There's ONE fewer button on Hot Bars! And you press.....one fewer button ever 1 minute because you just use Shinten 4 times instead of Kaiten 5 times.... Everything is so much better!

Well, it'll at least be a little different whenever they figure out how they can raise damage on Shinten and halve kenki generation without people rioting.