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    I'm fully convinced it's not coming back. If they can mention that DRG and AST is getting a rework delay they could have mentioned something like "future Samurai adjustments are coming in 6.2, please wait for LL part 2 for more details".

    They aren't saying anything because this is the direction they are taking for better or worse. I've already made peace with it and am moving on from XIV since it's clear they have no intention of listening to any feedback at this point and I'll be damned if I'm gonna wait another 2 years before things "may get better" in the next expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post

    Edit: I know that this is the FFXIV forum, but I wish we could be a tad bit more organized and not clutter it with needless threads that like I said should just be a comment in another thread.
    In reality it's counter-productive and makes it more difficult to collect feedback in a cohesive manner and there are also other Jobs that deserve to be heard too.
    It's probably not fun if you play another Job and want to be heard but then the forum gets a billion SAM threads about the same thing.
    Bumping pointless thread to agree that thread is pointless and should have been a comment in one of the other numerous ones that already exist.

    Have a nice day everyone.
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    The more threads there are from different players sharing their own perspectives, the harder it is for developers to ignore that pressing feedback than if there was just a single thread that might be more easily dismissed or buried. All they have to do is simply acknowledge the threads and make a very simple statement with regards to whether Kaiten will ever be added back, but they haven’t done that; Samurai players should not have to wait four entire months to be acknowledged.

    Meanwhile, Black Mage gets changed multiple times within a short amount of time, including functional changes, not just potency tweaks and the like. An entire blog post was made for Black Mage feedback in a timely manner, but Kaiten has had absolute silence since the Patch 6.1 notes; why the inconsistency?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowMink View Post
    The more threads there are from different players sharing their own perspectives, the harder it is for developers to ignore that pressing feedback than if there was just a single thread that might be more easily dismissed or buried. All they have to do is simply acknowledge the threads and make a very simple statement with regards to whether Kaiten will ever be added back, but they haven’t done that; Samurai players should not have to wait four entire months to be acknowledged.

    Meanwhile, Black Mage gets changed multiple times within a short amount of time, including functional changes, not just potency tweaks and the like. An entire blog post was made for Black Mage feedback in a timely manner, but Kaiten has had absolute silence since the Patch 6.1 notes; why the inconsistency?
    Pvp is updated more frequently due to the player dilemma. And again, there's already a multitude of posts made that are already getting lost. But there's another thread that has a link to all of those already as well. At this point in time, we're already halfway to the next patch.
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    People actually want Kaiten back?



    /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    People actually want Kaiten back?



    /s
    uh yes, me because I liked being able to boost my burst through Good Resource Management instead of spamming Filler Abilities like braindead and having to sit on 20 Kenki.. which is a Problem I never had since 2017
    they could've at least tune down the Kenki Cost of Shinten and Kyuten.. which may worsen the Spam but at least I don't have sit on 20 Kenki like it is now.. I feel so teased! Like: "Oh Look! 20 Kenki! Remember what you could do with those before 6.1!? But guess what! Not anymore! Now do a Hakaze and spam Shinten like a Monkey you Bongo!"
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    >Linking to Meoni
    Good job. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    >Linking to Meoni
    Good job. /s
    Meoni is just repeating what was said at that time in the unofficial translation of the Live Letter. Since I don't have access to the unofficial translation and I'm sure that a good number of us don't speak Japanese, I would figure that this was sufficient without me searching for a long time just to disprove some statement someone made up with no source.
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    +1 bring back kaiten, sam feels bad without it. Do you like shinten? Ayo dawg we put a shinten in your shinten so you can shinten while you shinten. Please look forward to it
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    Personally I am content with it being gone. Sam feels just fine without it.
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