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    Angellos's Avatar
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    Angellos Virius
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    STOP targeting TANKS

    They have the most health, the most defensive CD's, just as much healing as anyone else (Even more healing if they're a warrior) they can become completely immune (PLD) or heal for the amount you smack them for instead of taking damage and dying (DRK.)

    So what makes you think it's a good idea to target the nearly unkillable thing first?

    No. Kill the squishies first and turn a 5v5 into a 5v2. THEN kill the tanks, when you can just burst them all down.

    Eugh I am so sick of not being able to communicate in CC. Give us teams already!!!
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Target Tanks first.
    Surprise them with the combined full dmg of 5 people.
    Chain CC them so that they can not even use their defensives. They will die as fast as any other melee.

    Once they are dead you can kill everyone else without being annoyed by WAR stuns, DRK pulls/ shields or the PLD cover.


    When you try to kill them last, then they can avoid the death for so long that his whole team will be back alive with all spells and maybe even LB, all against your weakened team
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    Last edited by Curisu; 07-06-2022 at 06:50 PM.

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    Ravenwatch's Avatar
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    Hidden Street
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Target Tanks first.
    Surprise them with the combined full dmg of 5 people.
    Chain CC them so that they can not even use their defensives. They will die as fast as any other melee.
    This is always fun to do when the enemy team is timid, but has an aggro tank.
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    NO. Because there won't BE five people on that tank, and you aren't going to kill it before it uses its CDs. If anything, it's going to blow it's invul EARLY while the rest of their team is ripping your faces apart. But you and the other guy targeting the tank and not killing it is the reason why your teams keep losing.

    So no, you don't target them first. At least not in lower ranks you absolutely don't because you can't rely on the other four dips on your team to actually target it with you. So STOP telling people to target tanks unless you're gold+ and actually have teammates who might maybe possibly cooperate. This 'kill the tank' mentality is making it impossible to climb out of bronze and silver. Just stop with it.

    Edit: Right after writing this I even attempted to mark, and focus fire the tank at the start of the match. It didn't die, everyone else was on the astrologian or the Ninja, it didn't die, and it was a complete waste of time. Meanwhile the SMN was killing everyone.
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    Last edited by Angellos; 07-06-2022 at 09:42 PM.

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    Curisu's Avatar
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    Ohh, even in Gold+ you don't see a good cooperation.
    Just adapt better on what your Teammates are doing.

    They focus the tank? Help them so he dies first.
    Your team is running around like headless chickens, push the crystal alone while the enemy's follow your team.
    You team is not focusing anyone, make focus calls with the macros and attack the same target as your strongest teammate.

    Also, don't blame your team for your low rank, it is your own fault when you don't climb.
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    Player
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    You can't blame losses on one person on a team. It's a cooperative effort. If I lose and I have 10+ kills, 1.1 Mil+ damage, and my entire team runs off the point while I'm CC'd: That's not my fault. Get real. I'm Crystal rank on my main. This is the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

    Crystal on my main
    Platinum on my bard
    Gold on my Reaper.

    But yeah I guess I'm just bad on this one particular character and it's all my fault yeah? LOL You're funny: It also tells me you don't know anything about PvP if you genuinely believe that it's one person's fault for a lost game.
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    Last edited by Angellos; 07-06-2022 at 09:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angellos View Post
    You can't blame losses on one person on a team. It's a cooperative effort. If I lose and I have 10+ kills, 1.1 Mil+ damage, and my entire team runs off the point while I'm CC'd: That's not my fault. Get real. I'm Crystal rank on my main. This is the stupidest thing I've heard all day.
    No, it's a game of chances.
    You have potential 5 bad player in the enemy team and only 4 in yours, because you are a good player.
    Play enough rounds and you will automatically increase your ranks, especially with this broken winstreak system.

    And, you can't use crystal strats in lower ranks, you have to adapt your playstyle to it.
    But that should not be a problem for a crystal rank player.

    p.s.
    I know enough about 5v5 PvP game's.
    A ELO hell does not exist, sometimes you can be extremely unlucky but you should always win more than you lose when you are below you skill level and play enough games.
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    Last edited by Curisu; 07-06-2022 at 09:51 PM.

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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Coeurl
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    Kill who least expects it or is in bad shape is often the right answer. Same applied to Feast.

    Job matters little, and RPR is the tankiest job in the game right now.
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Putting aside that tanks tend to either have high value limit breaks (PLD, GNB), extremely high damage output if left untouched (DRK, GNB) or are actually squishier than you give them credit for (WAR, GNB), you need to kill a tank at some point anyways.

    Efficient target prioritisation isn't "kill these roles / jobs in this order", it is capitalising on info like someone having recently used Guard / Purify and / or other cooldowns, as well as low MP so they have less heals.

    Also it is better to attack what others are already attacking. Five pool noodles all hitting the same guy can still do something.
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Depends on the tank. WAR and GNB die pretty easily, especially WAR. If you can catch a PLD off guard then absolutely kill them, but the problem is if you don't get the kill people just keep attacking them which is just like....why, please stop lol. Same with DRK. People get thirsty and see DRK at 1% but don't realize they are using living dead and waste globals on the DRK.

    But in general yes its probably better to ignore the tank and kill the backline. People just lose sight of that because the tank is always in the front and a lot of people don't want to dive the back line and if you have a ton of ranged the ranged is gonna wanna stay back so the tank is their only target.
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