CC balance

[Risvertasashi]

MoN remains one of the best cc's in the game, and Purgation one of the best and fastest LBs. Just because people have discovered AST had a higher skill cap doesn't make WHM any less broken. I'd really like to see an API release, because idk what healer diversity you're seeing that I'm missing. Most everyone is still spamming WHM/AST, with a smattering of SCHs and maybe 5 Crystal SGE mains in the whole DC.

Ah yes, the ol' "I'm going to list the things a job can do to make it sound OP!"

But you hit the nail on the head with what you said in the second part: SGE needs a buff. AST, WHM, SCH are in good spots. Which is similar to where most roles are right now.

[Myrha_Lhlalheva]

Ah yes, the ol' "I'm going to list the things a job can do to make it sound OP!"

I eagerly await the valid counter-argument to that absolute mess of a kitchen sink that NIN has available to it. Which other jobs can do all that? Or even approach that in terms of relative versatility + strength + safety? It sounds OP because it is OP.

[Petite]

If [NIN] need any nerf, I'd increase Shukuchi cooldown to 20.
> That’s not a nerf, that’s misdirection. NIN’s *Bunshinless* burst is already on a 20s CD because Mug is just 5s away.

You need to pressure them into using mudras on defense. That's the primary method of dealing with them
> This is a made up "weakness". Every job struggles under a lot of pressure.

Why do you feel the need to downplay NIN so much when you speak about it? It’s not oppressively strong, but it has no weaknesses besides getting clipped out of Stealth (not a big deal if you replace Assassinate with a Shuriken).

Here are the other 4 melee DPS's weaknesses (and I'm sure I'm missing some):

DRG
• Is 25% more vulnerable under Gierskogul
• You can mitigate WWT if you manage to gap-close the DRG in time
• Horrid Roar has to hit people to work on them
• LB can be countered with a simple Guard

SAM
• Has cast times
• Chiten is short
• The 3s LB debuff window is short
• LB can be countered if you’re on the lookout for Chiten or have shields

MNK
• Must attack in melee range to work towards its burst
• Earth’s Reply can’t go off when CCed

RPR
• There’s a 2.94s gap between your last Reaping weaponskill and Communio which is ample time for you to LOS it and heal yourself
• LB can easily be messed with or guarded

Please don’t give me that "but NIN has the weakest sustained damage" argument you once gave before. That’s a BS argument when it concerns a 20s burst-specialized job that can deal up to 46.4K in 4s with a built-in 2s stun.

Besides that, NIN is incredibly versatile with access to:
• tons of ranged attacks;
• an instant 16k barrier;
• a self-HoT;
• a potent AOE DOT;
• an AOE slow;
• fire-and-forget mitigation with Bunshin;
• teleport into stealth;
• double-stun
• An LB which only the NIN itself can cause to fail.

Look, I love NIN, it’s my alt job in ranked CC. But let’s not BS each other out of fear of our jobs getting nerfed. SE only moves when there's mass outrage like in 6.11a anyway.