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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Grinning Serpent
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    Maduin
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Nah, SCH is fine. AST is still top dog because its kit is honestly kind of overpowered, but at least they don't have AOE CC anymore. I would have preferred more nerfs to Aspected Benefic, though - it's the only thing that's really making AST overpowered. 10k raw healing on an instant action is simply too much, especially when it adds riders like a 4k regen or 4k shield. I think I'd just make it flat 8k healing + regen for the first use and flat 4k healing + shield for the double cast. It would still leave AST as the most powerful healer (that's still 12k raw healing plus 4k regen plus 4k shield for one instant GCD and an oGCD) but reducing the maximum raw healing to 24k instead of 40k would certainly bring them back into line with the other healers. Do that and combine it with the loss of AOE CC and I think the class would be fine.
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    Sarevok Thordin
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    The NIN is simply put massively OP for reasons given before, but the stealth aspect of it makes it an entirely different kind of animal. The minute a nin gets attention in the middle of a fight, it can hop into stealth, remove targeting on it and then just come back in when those against it are trying to keep their damage going. They have tons of CC to keep a target constantly locked down and their damage isn't anything to sloth at.
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    Petite Poutine
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin View Post
    The NIN is simply put massively OP for reasons given before, but the stealth aspect of it makes it an entirely different kind of animal. The minute a nin gets attention in the middle of a fight, it can hop into stealth, remove targeting on it and then just come back in when those against it are trying to keep their damage going. They have tons of CC to keep a target constantly locked down and their damage isn't anything to sloth at.
    Despite my post above and holding the opinion that it is the strongest melee DPS, I don't think NIN is OP. I just think it has no real weaknesses.

    Uncovering them from Hide only penaizes their burst a little and the only LB counterplay is to keep yourself above 50% (easier said than done when all they have to do is press a button at the right time)
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    Last edited by Petite; 07-09-2022 at 11:52 AM.

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    Myrha Lhalheva
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    I think there's a very fine line between "best in class" and "OP job", and NIN does a pretty poor job of straddling that line sometimes. Then again, I'm very biased because I main the worst healer in the game.
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    Last edited by Myrha_Lhlalheva; 07-09-2022 at 10:19 AM.

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