Summon Seraph's range

[Katoar]

Hello,

First off, the LB rework for SCH is a very welcomed change.

With that said, I would like to request that its range when deploying is increased. The CC immunity is good but Excogitation for 8k HP is an underwhelming buff. It feels even worse when you miss allies because of range restrictions. The summoning takes good 2-3 seconds to complete before Consolation can be cast.

[Kurando]

Excogitation is the single player buff that activates once HP falls below a certain amount or after time expires, are you confusing it with something else? Also you can pair Recitation with Excog for guaranteed critical HP recovery.

[Katoar]

We are talking about PvP

Summons Seraph to fight at a designated location.
Seraph will execute Seraph Flight immediately after being summoned.
Automatically casts Seraphic Veil on party members who suffer damage.
Additional Effect: Grants Recitation
Recitation Effect: Increases the potency of Galvanize, Biolysis, and Biolytic effects
Duration: 15s
Can only be executed when the limit gauge is full.

Grants Seraph Flight and Excogitation to all nearby party members.
Seraph Flight Effect: Nullifies the next status affliction that can be removed by Purify
Duration: 20s
Excogitation Effect: Restores HP when HP falls below 50% or upon effect duration expiration
Cure Potency: 8,000
Duration: 20s

[Kurando]

We are talking about PvP

Ah my bad, I didn't see the sub topic name.

[Gserpent]

Hello,

First off, the LB rework for SCH is a very welcomed change.

With that said, I would like to request that its range when deploying is increased. The CC immunity is good but Excogitation for 8k HP is an underwhelming buff. It feels even worse when you miss allies because of range restrictions. The summoning takes good 2-3 seconds to complete before Consolation can be cast.

It's fine. The buffs snapshot when you activate the LB, so people don't need to stay in the circle. Summon Seraph has a 30yd cast range and has a standard 10yd AOE. That's plenty to ensure you get your important allies. If you're complaining that you can't hit your entire team because they're spread out... well, *good.* It would be overpowered if you could. There's a benefit to staying spread out, and there's downsides too. It's an important balancing factor. Drop Seraph where she will hit the players most likely to need Seraph Flight if you can't get everyone.

Excog is fine. 8000 HP is a little over 15% HP for most casters and healers, a little less for melee and tanks. Increasing the amount healed would require lowering the activation threshold, which increases the chance the person just dies before the heal can trigger (something you'll see happen with Phoenix's 12k excog effect, since it triggers at 25% instead of 50%.) Remember, Seraph is spitting out adlos every 2.5 sec.

I do agree that Seraph should activate faster after summoning. The same should be true for Bahamut and Phoenix. I would add a guaranteed 4 sec delay on Akh Morn, Consolation, etc however. I think that delay is important, because it gives the enemy team time to try and kill the summoning player before they can use their summon's primary skill.

[Katoar]

has a standard 10yd AOE

Consolation has 20y AoE range

I am assuming you do not have a lot of PvP experience as a Scholar. Just to put it into perspective, you can cast Aldo > Deployment tactics and hit all of your teammates and then cast Summon Seraph at the centre, on the target you spread Aldo from and hit exactly no one but that target.

[Cytus]

Just ignore the “it is fine man” , every rebalance issue to him is just fine.

[Garten]

Just ignore the “it is fine man” , every rebalance issue to him is just fine.

Yeah i was gonna Say It too. I started to not a scheme tbh.. Also.. why does the "so good" ppls dont log to forums with their mains?

[Gserpent]

Consolation has 20y AoE range

I am assuming you do not have a lot of PvP experience as a Scholar. Just to put it into perspective, you can cast Aldo > Deployment tactics and hit all of your teammates and then cast Summon Seraph at the centre, on the target you spread Aldo from and hit exactly no one but that target.

Consolation is 20yd, Seraph Flight is 10yd. I was specifically referring to Seraph Flight there. I'm a SCH main, I am well aware of the ranges and functions of the class.

[Gserpent]

Just ignore the “it is fine man” , every rebalance issue to him is just fine.

Because most things are not balance issues, they are skill issues. I'm sorry you and so many others struggle with accepting that your losses and failures are due to your own inadequacies and not the game. I would recommend spending more time analyzing and considering your own play, and less time worrying about theoretical balance issues. You'll find you have better results that way.