A small concern I have about housing

[Bukachu]

Hello gamers.

I recently got into ff14 (like 2 weeks ago), coming from the game we dont mention, and in all honesty Im enjoying the game so far, however I do have a little (a bit bigger than little) concern which I will share below.

Been reading forums past few days, and as I got the game Just now and Im waiting for it to update (which will take a few hours), I thought I'd bring this up, as no one seemed to mention it (or I didnt notice anyone mentioning).

In short, its about housing.

Obtaining house is hard as it is, it involves certain level of RNG, sums, and then it requires you to stay subbed for the rest of your existence (unless auto-demolish is turned off ofc).

Different people have different solutions to the issue, but Im not here to discuss either of those solutions, be it instanced housing, more wards, etc, etc.
And, I somewhat understood why Auto-demolish was introduced in the first place (Limited supply, greedy individuals buying multiple plots and re-selling/monopolizing wards).

Yet there's one thing I genuinely don't understand.
Alright follow me on this one gamers - Lets say, I decided to get a house, I joined lottery, bid all my ancestral savings and got lucky enough to actually get a plot, so far it all makes sense right?

Alright keep following - So I decorate my house, make it look nice, spend months playing and enjoying the game, and after 9 months I decided to take a little break due to any reason really, be it burn out, real life, or just wanting to try a different games.
45 days pass after I quit and my house gets demolished. I hope im still making sense. we're getting to the end~

And after my house is demolished, 80% of amount payed, as well as all "salvageable" items are stored up for up to 30 days, and then, all of that is gone. THIS, this is the part I genuinely do not understand.

House is gone? right. and reasoning for that is that its a limited resource and since you're not using it, other people will. fair enough.
And Yoshi-P said that he doesnt want people to feel pressured to play at all times and not take breaks, right. that's also fair.

With all that in mind I just cant think of a good explanation, to why all your gil and property etc should disappear if you should decide to take a break. it just feels like a punishment for taking a break.

I mean you already lost your house, which is sad on its own but at least there's reasoning behind it, but then losing all your valuables on top of it feels even more depressing, especially when there's no explanation for it.

Please discuss gamers.

[Renalt]

Hello gamers.

I recently got into ff14 (like 2 weeks ago), coming from the game we dont mention, and in all honesty Im enjoying the game so far, however I do have a little (a bit bigger than little) concern which I will share below.

Been reading forums past few days, and as I got the game Just now and Im waiting for it to update (which will take a few hours), I thought I'd bring this up, as no one seemed to mention it (or I didnt notice anyone mentioning).

In short, its about housing.

Obtaining house is hard as it is, it involves certain level of RNG, sums, and then it requires you to stay subbed for the rest of your existence (unless auto-demolish is turned off ofc).

Different people have different solutions to the issue, but Im not here to discuss either of those solutions, be it instanced housing, more wards, etc, etc.
And, I somewhat understood why Auto-demolish was introduced in the first place (Limited supply, greedy individuals buying multiple plots and re-selling/monopolizing wards).

Yet there's one thing I genuinely don't understand.
Alright follow me on this one gamers - Lets say, I decided to get a house, I joined lottery, bid all my ancestral savings and got lucky enough to actually get a plot, so far it all makes sense right?

Alright keep following - So I decorate my house, make it look nice, spend months playing and enjoying the game, and after 9 months I decided to take a little break due to any reason really, be it burn out, real life, or just wanting to try a different games.
45 days pass after I quit and my house gets demolished. I hope im still making sense. we're getting to the end~

And after my house is demolished, 80% of amount payed, as well as all "salvageable" items are stored up for up to 30 days, and then, all of that is gone. THIS, this is the part I genuinely do not understand.

House is gone? right. and reasoning for that is that its a limited resource and since you're not using it, other people will. fair enough.
And Yoshi-P said that he doesnt want people to feel pressured to play at all times and not take breaks, right. that's also fair.

With all that in mind I just cant think of a good explanation, to why all your gil and property etc should disappear if you should decide to take a break. it just feels like a punishment for taking a break.

I mean you already lost your house, which is sad on its own but at least there's reasoning behind it, but then losing all your valuables on top of it feels even more depressing, especially when there's no explanation for it.

Please discuss gamers.

Frankly housing is the only thing to burn gil on. Losing the house and items are hardly upsetting when you have over 100 million because gil is easy to get. So you can just buy a new plot and all the stuff again easy...

However getting lucky enough to find another house is the problem.

[GeminiReed]

Somebody close to me at one time had RL happen to them and had to drop the game for several months. Their house along with several irreplaceable decorations we gone. Losing the house was painful but losing those decorations was enough of a middle finger for them to never return.

Good job Square!

[Oizen]

Its almost like Yoshi P is a buisness man or something and keeps housing the way it is to keep you subbed

[Renalt]

Speaking of housing...if anyone sees an apartment open in Balmung give me a hollar. I gotta find a home for all those stuffed Bokos I have.

[Skivvy]

Frankly housing is the only thing to burn gil on. Losing the house and items are hardly upsetting when you have over 100 million because gil is easy to get. So you can just buy a new plot and all the stuff again easy...

However getting lucky enough to find another house is the problem.

I have over a 100 million, and I'd still be really annoyed about having all my items go *poof* as I've spent far too much time gathering, crafting and collecting the pieces in the first place. Chances are if you're taking a break from the game and you've lost your house, you're not going to want to have to resub in order to save your furnishings as well. It's just an extra slap in the face in an already crappy system.

[Renalt]

I have over a 100 million, and I'd still be really annoyed about having all my items go *poof* as I've spent far too much time gathering, crafting and collecting the pieces in the first place. Chances are if you're taking a break from the game and you've lost your house, you're not going to want to have to resub in order to save your furnishings as well. It's just an extra slap in the face in an already crappy system.

Yeah...I agree. It's not a good system all around but I think it's intentional.

[Bukachu]

Losing the house was painful but losing those decorations was enough of a middle finger for them to never return.

Good job Square!

Yup this is Exactly my point. It just looks like a way to keep people subbed.

Which is Odd considering Yoshi-P said he doesnt want to make people feel like they need to play the game/stay subbed 365 days a year.

and I mean on top of that they do Halt auto-demolition at troubled times to help community out, hence why its so puzzling.

In all honesty, I did hear a lot of good about this game and community, and even tho after starting to play I disliked few very minor things, nothing beats the disappointment I felt with this little detail.

I mean yeah, housing system has its issues, but like I mentioned it has ups and downs and certain reasoning behind it, but this particular detail I simply cant explain, other than a scheme to keep people subbed. Which would be sad if true

[Striker44]

Considering how minuscule a % of the gaming population actually has a house or apartment, it seems unlikely "keeping people subbed" is the reason. We can only speculate, but my guess would be "where does the stuff go?" What extra storage would be put into? And how many people either never come back or don't for a while, meaning that equipment is all building up on some server space somewhere?

It seems a very trivial thing to make a big deal over.

[Bukachu]

Considering how minuscule a % of the gaming population actually has a house or apartment, it seems unlikely "keeping people subbed" is the reason. We can only speculate, but my guess would be "where does the stuff go?" What extra storage would be put into? And how many people either never come back or don't for a while, meaning that equipment is all building up on some server space somewhere?

It seems a very trivial thing to make a big deal over.

Yeah but same would apply to player inventory, and all the things you've obtained in the game, just because you took a break doesn't mean everything should be removed does it?

I dont think It's a trivial, I mean it may be for you, which is up to you, but objectively its not and multiple people above confirmed that some things are simply unobtainable, or require a lot of time/resource investment, those things simply going poof definitely isnt trivial.