Kaiten

[guigaxw]

Hi can the devs bring back kaiten please.

[Kolsykol]

Can we at least wait until 6.2/ live letter part 2?..

[CKNovel]

Can we at least wait until 6.2/ live letter part 2?..

There was no mention of Kaiten during the first liveletter.
I think at least answering something would've been the minimum.

For months they kept asking, it's literally the most vocal feedback and they're met with silence.

[MellowMink]

Can we at least wait until 6.2/ live letter part 2?..

Samurai players have been waiting for almost four months, being asked to provide feedback while never having a single bit of it even acknowledged since; they’re tired of waiting.

People also shouldn’t have to wait over four entire months for those reversions either; why does it have to take that long for Kaiten to be added back if mechanical action changes to PvP actions can be released within weeks of their release in response to player feedback? Unless the plan was never to add Kaiten back regardless of how much feedback is received, in which case I’d prefer more direct honesty.

[Kolsykol]

Samurai players have been waiting for almost four months, being asked to provide feedback while never having a single bit of it even acknowledged since; they’re tired of waiting.

People also shouldn’t have to wait over four entire months for those reversions either; why does it have to take that long for Kaiten to be added back if mechanical action changes to PvP actions can be released within weeks of their release in response to player feedback? Unless the plan was never to add Kaiten back regardless of how much feedback is received, in which case I’d prefer more direct honesty.

I am a SAM player too and I don't like the Kaiten removal.
We already have a billion of these threads tho we don't need more to clutter the forum this should've just been another comment in one of the other threads not a thread in and of itself.
Yoshi-P also said that we should give it a chance but keep giving feedback which we have now what remains is wait until the next major patch where Job reworks etc normally happens.
Making another thread about it isn't going to do anything.

PvP is also different because players are on the receiving end, I think generally speaking most will agree that being on the receiving end in PvP feels worse and more urgent than a Job missing a button in PvE but still performing well.

There was no mention of Kaiten during the first liveletter.
I think at least answering something would've been the minimum.

For months they kept asking, it's literally the most vocal feedback and they're met with silence.

Because Job changes are covered in part 2 of Live Letters...
They only mentioned that AST and DRG are having their reworks delayed *BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE RESPONSE TO SAM*.

Edit: I know that this is the FFXIV forum, but I wish we could be a tad bit more organized and not clutter it with needless threads that like I said should just be a comment in another thread.
In reality it's counter-productive and makes it more difficult to collect feedback in a cohesive manner and there are also other Jobs that deserve to be heard too.
It's probably not fun if you play another Job and want to be heard but then the forum gets a billion SAM threads about the same thing.

[CKNovel]

Because Job changes are covered in part 2 of Live Letters...

They only mentioned that AST and DRG are having their reworks delayed *BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE RESPONSE TO SAM*.

What stops them from adressing Kaiten at all?
"We understand the Samurai playerbase frustration, we will adress the issue later", how hard is that?

I cannot find any official mention of the reason behind the postponning of DRG/AST rework.
Do you have any reliable sources?

[LeonKeyh]

What stops them from adressing Kaiten at all?
"We understand the Samurai playerbase frustration, we will adress the issue later", how hard is that?

I cannot find any official mention of the reason behind the postponning of DRG/AST rework.
Do you have any reliable sources?

They officially said that the reworks were more involved than they anticipated. Not that it had anything to do with SAM complaints....

[fulminating]

They officially said that the reworks were more involved than they anticipated. Not that it had anything to do with SAM complaints....

This is the translation synopsis I saw

I don't speak japanese in the slightest so have no idea whose is more accurate.

[guigaxw]

I am a SAM player too and I don't like the Kaiten removal.
We already have a billion of these threads tho we don't need more to clutter the forum this should've just been another comment in one of the other threads not a thread in and of itself.
Yoshi-P also said that we should give it a chance but keep giving feedback which we have now what remains is wait until the next major patch where Job reworks etc normally happens.
Making another thread about it isn't going to do anything.

PvP is also different because players are on the receiving end, I think generally speaking most will agree that being on the receiving end in PvP feels worse and more urgent than a Job missing a button in PvE but still performing well.



Because Job changes are covered in part 2 of Live Letters...
They only mentioned that AST and DRG are having their reworks delayed *BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE RESPONSE TO SAM*.

Edit: I know that this is the FFXIV forum, but I wish we could be a tad bit more organized and not clutter it with needless threads that like I said should just be a comment in another thread.
In reality it's counter-productive and makes it more difficult to collect feedback in a cohesive manner and there are also other Jobs that deserve to be heard too.
It's probably not fun if you play another Job and want to be heard but then the forum gets a billion SAM threads about the same thing.

Hi to answer you i think it's better to make a lot of threads because it will be easier to prove them that a majority of the community disagree this changes, we are showing them that they need to listen to the players and giving us silent is definetely not an answer. So i'll continue to comment or post threads( but not too much i understand there might be other problems) about the sam. I hope SE will listen to us, it's never too late and it's okay to make mistakes.