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  1. #11
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    But, but, that'd be like WoW.

    Appearances automatically added to your catalog? Information on where to acquire all collectables, including appearances? Intuitive one-click controls for said catalog for trying things on?

    Nay, I say. Nay.

    /s Yes, better handling of glamour acquisition, browsing, and application in this game would be greatly appreciated, ideally above and beyond competitors.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    So why can't we have other similar searches in the confines of the inn room?

    Even if they can't handle everything, viewable dungeon and alliance raid gear would be a massive help.
    Yep. Those are the two areas lacking in accessibility. I don't know about dungeons, but I could see them adding some kind of vendor to the respective alliance quest zones to pick up gear after one has cleared and the content isn't as relevant. Dungeons are easily farmed and people running them helps the newer people more.
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    Jagick Valarius
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    While we're at it, can we also have this for retainers? It's a pain in the ass to dress female retainers on a male character or male retainers on a female character, since you can't preview how a glamour piece will look on them before you buy or craft it.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagick View Post
    While we're at it, can we also have this for retainers? It's a pain in the ass to dress female retainers on a male character or male retainers on a female character, since you can't preview how a glamour piece will look on them before you buy or craft it.
    That's even less likely to happen. You may as well use one of those websites. Every piece of glam is catalogued somewhere. You could also make an alt to look at stuff on the market.
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    Nadia Frostwind
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    Seraph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    Yoshi P commented about it for minions and mounts. To keep it short: he doesnt want to make us feel like its mandatory to spend real money in order to acquire nice looking stuff.
    He also said that if they made a list, people would feel compelled to "complete the list" and this could put some unnecessary weight on their shoulders.

    I prefer to look for this type of listing content on websites, as we see in other games. Too much information within the game can be overwhelming, especially for beginners.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    He also said that if they made a list, people would feel compelled to "complete the list" and this could put some unnecessary weight on their shoulders.
    We already discussed this further up the thread. The phrasing "complete the list" indicates that they're talking about the concept of a checklist that marks off which pieces you have. Dreamfitting doesn't do that – it's just a list of everything you can get, without any tracking of what you own.
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    I'd like it actually. Because most of the time you can only try out items on MB since they're preview-able at all times.
    However there are good sets from dungeon that you will most likely miss out on since you don't know they exist.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    He also said that if they made a list, people would feel compelled to "complete the list" and this could put some unnecessary weight on their shoulders.

    I prefer to look for this type of listing content on websites, as we see in other games. Too much information within the game can be overwhelming, especially for beginners.
    What's the difference from this and achievements....? I disagree with this logic (which I know you are saying is Yoshida's logic). Some achievements are more annoying to obtain than most of all the hard to get gear (speaking of the late tier ones at least). For mog shop or FOMO gear (which they shouldn't do) they can simply not show it if you don't own it. Exception for perhaps ultimate, which could have similar rules (perhaps a blank section that displays what you've earned).

    If they don't want to compell lists that are difficult then much of the achievement log needs to go.

    Of course a complete dream log is a bit different than the above, but I just wanted to note I don't really get the logic for being against completionist lists when we have an achievement system with some frankly crazy numbers to some of them.

    Unless Yoshida is also against that, and it's too late lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-06-2022 at 12:07 PM.

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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    What's the difference from this and achievements....? I disagree with this logic (which I know you are saying is Yoshida's logic). Some achievements are more annoying to obtain than most of all the hard to get gear (speaking of the late tier ones at least). For mog shop or FOMO gear (which they shouldn't do) they can simply not show it if you don't own it. Exception for perhaps ultimate, which could have similar rules (perhaps a blank section that displays what you've earned).

    If they don't want to compell lists that are difficult then much of the achievement log needs to go.

    Of course a complete dream log is a bit different than the above, but I just wanted to note I don't really get the logic for being against completionist lists when we have an achievement system with some frankly crazy numbers to some of them.

    Unless Yoshida is also against that, and it's too late lol.
    The Achievement log is actually part of a better solution to all this: If we just got vendors selling stuff from places (dungeons and alliance raids) we've cleared, people could manage their dresser better.
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  10. #20
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    Adamantoise
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    I would like this. I think they can manage to do it in a way that doesn't emphasize cash shop items since that's a concern they've expressed.

    I've also long wanted something that's sort of related to this, but not restricted to glamour, which is just linking of all items in the game to their sources. I'm sure this is not an easy feat given how old FFXIV is at this point, but it's something basically every live service or gacha game does, where the item description tells you where it can currently be found within the game. It would be useful for glamour, like when someone else has something on and you want to know where it comes from, but I primarily want it because I despise the menus for all the "endgame exchange" NPCs.
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