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    An in-game UI that let you try on every piece of glam and how to get them

    First and foremost, I don't talk about how "get the glam and they will be with you forever". It would be cool, but it seems not working with FF14 for developers' reasons.


    What I mean is an UI that will show you all the gear in-game and how to get them. More importantly, you can try them on too. Think of Dream Fitting function at the Inn that let you try out store-bought item, but this UI will expand to non-store bought games too.


    So, let's say I want a leg-piece that fit my glam idea, I open the UI, and use Try On every leg-piece that the game offers. Prefer to have a filter on gear categories and contents they come from (raid/dungeon/crafting/hunting...). Then I see the leg piece I want, I read where I can get it. Perhaps excluding store-bought items cuz you have Dream Fitting for it already.



    I think it will be helpful for glam dresser to get the piece they want without having to run every where to try on NPCs' item list, or resort 3rd-party plugins.
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    Yoshi P commented about it for minions and mounts. To keep it short: he doesnt want to make us feel like its mandatory to spend real money in order to acquire nice looking stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    Yoshi P commented about it for minions and mounts. To keep it short: he doesnt want to make us feel like its mandatory to spend real money in order to acquire nice looking stuff.
    What does that have to do at all with what OP said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    What does that have to do at all with what OP said?
    It is actually somewhat related. Yoshi P said that making a list of showing all existing things would also include things that are not available anymore/are cash shop only/come from codes with statues etc. and it would annoy many people to have a list that they can never fill Yes they could just make everything available again but there are things like 1.0 stuff etc that probably will never come back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    It is actually somewhat related. Yoshi P said that making a list of showing all existing things would also include things that are not available anymore/are cash shop only/come from codes with statues etc. and it would annoy many people to have a list that they can never fill Yes they could just make everything available again but there are things like 1.0 stuff etc that probably will never come back
    That's the opposite of what is being asked. The list of cash shop glamours already exists; OP is asking for a list of things that can be acquired in game.

    Additionally, the phrasing in your quote as a "list they can never fill" indicates that the statement would have been regarding a checklist of things to collect, not a simple preview of everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    Yoshi P commented about it for minions and mounts. To keep it short: he doesnt want to make us feel like its mandatory to spend real money in order to acquire nice looking stuff.
    Mayhaps you meant to post this in a completely different thread?

    Anywho, I would love this feature in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    Yoshi P commented about it for minions and mounts. To keep it short: he doesnt want to make us feel like its mandatory to spend real money in order to acquire nice looking stuff.
    He also said that if they made a list, people would feel compelled to "complete the list" and this could put some unnecessary weight on their shoulders.

    I prefer to look for this type of listing content on websites, as we see in other games. Too much information within the game can be overwhelming, especially for beginners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    He also said that if they made a list, people would feel compelled to "complete the list" and this could put some unnecessary weight on their shoulders.
    We already discussed this further up the thread. The phrasing "complete the list" indicates that they're talking about the concept of a checklist that marks off which pieces you have. Dreamfitting doesn't do that – it's just a list of everything you can get, without any tracking of what you own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    He also said that if they made a list, people would feel compelled to "complete the list" and this could put some unnecessary weight on their shoulders.

    I prefer to look for this type of listing content on websites, as we see in other games. Too much information within the game can be overwhelming, especially for beginners.
    What's the difference from this and achievements....? I disagree with this logic (which I know you are saying is Yoshida's logic). Some achievements are more annoying to obtain than most of all the hard to get gear (speaking of the late tier ones at least). For mog shop or FOMO gear (which they shouldn't do) they can simply not show it if you don't own it. Exception for perhaps ultimate, which could have similar rules (perhaps a blank section that displays what you've earned).

    If they don't want to compell lists that are difficult then much of the achievement log needs to go.

    Of course a complete dream log is a bit different than the above, but I just wanted to note I don't really get the logic for being against completionist lists when we have an achievement system with some frankly crazy numbers to some of them.

    Unless Yoshida is also against that, and it's too late lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-06-2022 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    What's the difference from this and achievements....? I disagree with this logic (which I know you are saying is Yoshida's logic). Some achievements are more annoying to obtain than most of all the hard to get gear (speaking of the late tier ones at least). For mog shop or FOMO gear (which they shouldn't do) they can simply not show it if you don't own it. Exception for perhaps ultimate, which could have similar rules (perhaps a blank section that displays what you've earned).

    If they don't want to compell lists that are difficult then much of the achievement log needs to go.

    Of course a complete dream log is a bit different than the above, but I just wanted to note I don't really get the logic for being against completionist lists when we have an achievement system with some frankly crazy numbers to some of them.

    Unless Yoshida is also against that, and it's too late lol.
    The Achievement log is actually part of a better solution to all this: If we just got vendors selling stuff from places (dungeons and alliance raids) we've cleared, people could manage their dresser better.
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