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    Player
    Shougun's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    The Achievement log is actually part of a better solution to all this: If we just got vendors selling stuff from places (dungeons and alliance raids) we've cleared, people could manage their dresser better.
    Definitely. I had an idea based off an akin system via a crystal library / forge. Where you could transmute content from a space into materia (of the given space) and then use it to purchase the glamour catalog, then further items, and also perhaps relates to crafts or relics.

    For example you earn 7 axes, 3 staves, and 4 books from ifrit and turn them into ifrit materia (14), the content has 10 weapons (no I am not trying to count out all the jobs, just give a rough example). By spending the 14 materia you unlock ALL the glamour form that content, they take up no slots- they're just unlocked. Now that you unlocked them you can now also spend 2 materia to purchase the weapon of your choice (meaning you could get 2 staves and come out with 1 katana). Transmuting can be done to bound and non-bound weapons, so you can use the weapon and once you no longer need it for stats on your main you can also transmute it (to meet the unlock demand or to use it in purchasing another weapon).

    These materia can also be traded for GC seals, sold to npc, crafted (as mentioned), and desynthized - allowing you to save space in your inventory if you're doing long farms.

    The benefit of a system being 1 variable (yes / no) stores an entire content, so like a raid, or a dungeon with 20+ unique items is now 1 yes / no. Which given the apparent memory issues FFXIV has, might be a function compromise that also allows players in built safety nets to pretty much all content.

    Of course a proper log would be nice though... One that tells you where it comes from, and if you have that specific item. The bonus here in this system though is if you're unlucky and can never seem to get that 'whm chest piece' to drop, it doesn't actually matter.. you just need content. Can adjust the ratio, unlock phase, and use HQ / LQ to add greater power (like a weapon might give HQ, and the content needs X LQ and Y HQ materia).


    Just wanting to say I don't agree with the idea that it will compel people to collect stuff any worse than achievements compel people, and if that's bad then SE should consider making their achievements more friendly. As I see some achievements that are pretty crazy. I respect the concern if it's from Cash Shop or something FOMO-ish... but I feel the list of items that meet that are like.. what.. sub 200? We could voluntarily make that list for SE lol. It would be boring work sure, but that is a totally do-able list to make and then easily maintained once the foresight of needing to maintain the list is known (so these do not show up in the log unless you already have them).

    It's a pitty they ditched the item log idea a long time ago, they originally said they were working on an item log with lore on them too (this was a request by myself and some others)... that would have been insanely cool glamour log but unfortunately was determined too much effort / not-practical for the server (I definitely believe it would be a lot of work, given each item needing to have localization.... and the system itself is hard as it even took Blizzard multiple years of dedicated resources.. but damn that would have been cool).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    The Achievement log is actually part of a better solution to all this: If we just got vendors selling stuff from places (dungeons and alliance raids) we've cleared, people could manage their dresser better.
    All that still requires the irritating hoops of checking one's retainers for each item in the set you want, making inventory room for what's left, going to the obscure vendor, buying what pieces you're missing, then going to an inn room, making room in the glamour dresser, and spending X glamour prisms, all just to get what would be automatic upon initial item acquisition in other games...
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    That would be cool, specifically if it doesn't flaunt cash shop as well. This by the way would be a fantastic segue into a wardrobe (GW2) / transmog log (WoW) system.
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    There will likely never be a one-stop-shop option. That's just too much info to be handled at once. This is why dream fitting exists as it does, within the confines of the inn room. This is why we have youtube channels like this one. All this info is available outside the game already.

    Not every player is this much into glam and those that are have little trouble venturing out to find what works. It's not a necessity and people get by just fine without it. Dream Fitting is the exception because you want to be sure you'll be happy with an outfit before you put down real money on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    There will likely never be a one-stop-shop option. That's just too much info to be handled at once. This is why dream fitting exists as it does, within the confines of the inn room.
    So why can't we have other similar searches in the confines of the inn room?

    Even if they can't handle everything, viewable dungeon and alliance raid gear would be a massive help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    So why can't we have other similar searches in the confines of the inn room?

    Even if they can't handle everything, viewable dungeon and alliance raid gear would be a massive help.
    Yep. Those are the two areas lacking in accessibility. I don't know about dungeons, but I could see them adding some kind of vendor to the respective alliance quest zones to pick up gear after one has cleared and the content isn't as relevant. Dungeons are easily farmed and people running them helps the newer people more.
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    I mean if you think about the Marketboard, that has a list of lots of equipment to try on, and not too long ago we had the Rowena representatives added in each city with a list of trial/raid/tomes etc gear. So I don't think a single medium containing everything, even if just for viewing purposes, is impossible. Though such a thing probably is not a priority at the moment, even if it was considered.
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    But, but, that'd be like WoW.

    Appearances automatically added to your catalog? Information on where to acquire all collectables, including appearances? Intuitive one-click controls for said catalog for trying things on?

    Nay, I say. Nay.

    /s Yes, better handling of glamour acquisition, browsing, and application in this game would be greatly appreciated, ideally above and beyond competitors.
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    While we're at it, can we also have this for retainers? It's a pain in the ass to dress female retainers on a male character or male retainers on a female character, since you can't preview how a glamour piece will look on them before you buy or craft it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagick View Post
    While we're at it, can we also have this for retainers? It's a pain in the ass to dress female retainers on a male character or male retainers on a female character, since you can't preview how a glamour piece will look on them before you buy or craft it.
    That's even less likely to happen. You may as well use one of those websites. Every piece of glam is catalogued somewhere. You could also make an alt to look at stuff on the market.
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