Dragoon is next

[Ransu]

Any actual changes are generally covered in part 2 yes, but they announced in todays LL that the planned changes for AST and DRG are being delayed as they were "wary" of the feedback received from the SAM changes. Basically it was an "oh shit we fucked up and don't know what to do now" without completely acknowledging that they fucked up.

[Tlamila]

Countdown till we have no more fun dps jobs left to play (ok, there's ninja, but it doesn't feel as good as drg by far)

[Reimmi]

Why tho, dragoon feels amazing right now
is it gonna lose all its positionals now? <_<

[Tlamila]

Why tho, dragoon feels amazing right now
is it gonna lose all its positionals now? <_<

It has two positionals like all other melees (ninja even has 3), so I think that's the only think safe for keeping. The rest though...

[Rolder50]

It has two positionals like all other melees (ninja even has 3), so I think that's the only think safe for keeping. The rest though...

Three actually

Chaotic Spring (Rear)
Wheeling Thrust (Rear)
Fang and Claw (Flank)

I'm betting they remove the positional from Chaotic Spring personally.

[Tlamila]

Three actually

Chaotic Spring (Rear)
Wheeling Thrust (Rear)
Fang and Claw (Flank)

I'm betting they remove the positional from Chaotic Spring personally.

You're right, I'm a potato.

[Wyssahtyn]

since they hate anything other than circle aoes, i wonder if drg might get ring of thorns back since they're undoubtedly eyeing its line aoes

[Deo14]

since they hate anything other than circle aoes, i wonder if drg might get ring of thorns back since they're undoubtedly eyeing its line aoes

Nah, that would make too much sense, we don't do that here. Instead they'll just duplicate the effect 4 times and rotate each by 90 degrees. Doom Spike? 8 claws, each in one cardinal and intercardinal direction. Sonic Thrust? Well, you see, it has sonic in it, which means very fast, and because of that, dragoon thrusts in every direction simultaneously. Coerthan Torment, Geirosgul and others? Well, you just yeet 8 spears and the same time in each direction.

If this seems absurd (well, it is), then don't forget that's exactly what happened with Tenka Goken. Atleast they've made legitimate animation for Fuko, but that was in 6.0, if I'm not mistaken.

But honestly, I'm staying optimistic. DRG is quite literally "thrust" job, doubt they would replace 4+ skills for that.

[Duskane]

considering they said "they have been adding the bare minimal" and Dragoon has "hit a wall" seems like its in for a full rework soon.
perhaps its too perfect in their eyes

honestly i really only expected merging fang/wheeling and probably remove disembowl then just add potency to the weapon skills to make up for it.

[Sekh]

As a DRG main, I personally like its' high skill ceiling. I understand the concept of making things more accessible for new players, but only within reason. sure, mitigate button bloat, I'd be ok with merging Fang/Wheeling into one button that changes, similar to True Thrust turning into Raiden Thrust. Perhaps making Raiden Thrust turn into Wyrmwind Thrust in the same way. but please, please, leave the core dragoon weaponskill rotation alone! As one of the only jobs, if not the only job, with more than one weaponskill combo path, it has a unique flavor that I, personally, really enjoy. There is something to be said for simplicity, yes, but there is also fun and satisfaction in different animations.

Personally, I think the tank jobs, except for Gunbreaker, really suffer for this. Having only one set of weaponskill animations to spam over and over again gets boring. Gunbreaker is saved from this because of the Continuation combo. Same for the new Summoner. I thought the 6.0 changes were great at first, but after having played it, it's really rather boring now.

My points may seem silly to some players, I know. I believe variety is the spice of life, and that extends to ability animations. I feel the same way about Keiten. It was a cool looking ability, and Sam just seems so much less cool now.