Dragoon is next

[SilverSkyway]

Can still put time into the job any level. Making easier does not hurt the game. Elites do.
If you just do 1-2-3 and nothing else then you playing poorly. I'm not a pro nor am I good but even so, you should try and use the whole kit. But having 30+ buttons that you need be fast is not healthy nor fun.

Really. If WoW had causal content like FF14 and a story that isn't bad. Lore doesn't need be as good but and not retcon every patch, I would never touched ff14. WoW combat and skills are miles ahead FF14... Though I enjoy FF14 dungeon design too.

[Payadopa]

until the new updates are done it all hearsay and drama till then i will wait play my game to see if any improvements are made and not be a crybaby about it.

I don't understand when people say that when all SE has done since EW is dumbing down jobs. I think people have waiting and observed long enough.

[Payadopa]

And with EW I meant ShB. lol Silly me.

[Haventale]

In the next expansion you know for sure 10 more levels of leveling are coming and in those 10 levels they will likely squeeze in 5 new features with perhaps 2 of them being new buttons, and the other 3 being traits that upgrade existing buttons. This is just the ff14 formula now.

I actually really, really hope that next expansion is the very last level cap increase. I really hope this game stops at level 99 or 100. I don’t play wow, but I remember hearing that they had to do a level squish because there was way too many levels for the number of skills, so you would just have big chunks of levels that were essentially a meaningless gameplay experience, nothing changed. In my opinion, FFXIV already got there by ShB. I don’t want this to continue on forever in this game.

[SilverSkyway]

WoW had a level, stat AND world (zones/mobs) level squish.
Max before was 120 before. Now 60 (soon 70). Nothing to do with skills. Heck, they barely gave new skills unless it was part of borrowed power last two expansions.
With FF14, they could stop at 90 or 100 to even it. Everything is block behind Msq and Ilvl anywho.

I started leveling a Drg (melee dps) so 2cent but this goes beyond Drg. I'll like if jobs were easier. If this game didn't have controller support I would never played FF14..or got far. That where I enjoy WoW classes over FF14 job bloat any day.

[butchersblock]

me when i have to put in 10 minutes of effort to learn a rotation on a dummy

[SilverSkyway]

You can hit a dummy for a hour and still not learn the rotation. And going dummy to boss are two different things.
Can a dummy help, yes. Do they fix bloat, no.

[AsiTsurugi]

You can hit a dummy for a hour and still not learn the rotation. And going dummy to boss are two different things.
Can a dummy help, yes. Do they fix bloat, no.

Sucks to suck.

[LeonKeyh]

I actually really, really hope that next expansion is the very last level cap increase. I really hope this game stops at level 99 or 100. I don’t play wow, but I remember hearing that they had to do a level squish because there was way too many levels for the number of skills, so you would just have big chunks of levels that were essentially a meaningless gameplay experience, nothing changed. In my opinion, FFXIV already got there by ShB. I don’t want this to continue on forever in this game.

I suspect they'll definitely do a level squish. This is, honestly, one of the more perfect times for it, but judging by the amount of content they're planning on adding this expansion, I don't see it happening.

Personally, I would plan on 7.0 to be a new starting position. Make the max level 50; Anyone at level 90 today would be... level 45 or something. Otherwise, people starting today can start with the "Hydaelyn Arc" or "-Spoiler- Arc". Squish the Hydaelyn arc (basically halving the levels of quests, items, abilities, etc) and the new arc would start at level 1.

With "10 years" of planned content remaining, it would be somewhat difficult for people to be "ok" with not raising the level cap, unless they implement some other superficial progression system.

[Nizzi]

More than 5 buttons?! INCONCEIVABLE! IT'S BUTTON BLOAT FIX IT FIX IT!!