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Thread: Dragoon is next

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahlinea View Post
    I don't know. The perception I have, talking specifically about savages, is that during HW and SB we had more things to deal with than we have now. The fights became more graphical from ShB onwards but I felt like they were also simplified when compared with savages in these two previous expansions. Again, that's only my pov.
    Also we had to deal with way more skills and abilities before, especially in HW. So I can't see them simplifying jobs for the sake of making harder mechanics.

    To make room for future skills is the more likely reason... but to gut jobs for a whole two years compromising people's enjoyment precisely when the main story finished and the new one still picking up is kind of a very risky move imo.
    It is indeed so they can add more skills later. I believe I saw a translated statement from the live letter that explained why drg was on the chopping block. Basically they have nowhere else to take the job as it currently is, so rather than try to make minor upgrades in the next xpac, they want to completely revamp the job. Which falls in line with how smn was described when that was gutted in favor of a level 60 rotation being completely unchanged at 90.

    It's also how they described kaiten on sam, which seems like a cop out than anything else.

    "The job is well designed and people like that. But we don't know what to do with it next. Welp, time to rework what makes folks happy. We do this for them." Kinda thought process it seems.
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    Honestly, the whole notion that Dragoon is too good and complete of a job right now and thus just has to be made worse is just so fucking idiotic. Just so the next expansion will look shinier for fixing problems they purposely created? You don't have to. Literally just upgrade a couple animations, or add simple flourish like turning Nastrond into a combo action. The sparkles will fool the players who don't play dragoon in the next job trailer, it's not like actual dragoon players want you to fuck with their job just for the sake of it.
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    Maybe they want dragoon to gain a job gauge sooner; currently they don't get their job gauge until 70. Perhaps introduce a new additional job gauge centered around the dragoon's jump skills that will give them more airtime?
    I really hope they don't mess up dragoon too badly though; I already figure they're gonna do something that'll be unpopular, I just don't want them to outright destroy dragoon.
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    Reiya Rahamos
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    all i want to do is to play hop scotch on my enemies heads, is that too much to ask? Let me jump on people all day every day. XD
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    Bearing in mind the two specific jobs mentioned (DRG and AST), the reworks likely amount to dealing with button bloat. If people remember, the whole point of the Kaiten removal was to 'reduce button bloat', but the negative reaction to Kaiten's removal likely has the devs rethinking how to fix the issue.
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    Luckily we're now marked safe until next expansion.
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    Is it really something to be content about though? Being safe for the next two years or so just so they can push through some crap changes under the guise of an expansion rework?
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    Last edited by Wyssahtyn; 07-16-2022 at 12:15 AM. Reason: a word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn View Post
    Is it really something to be content about though? Being safe for the next two years or so just so they can push through some crap changes under the guise of an expansion rework?
    They were gonna do them anyway, but at least this way we can buy some time before them. For e it's a win cause I'll be able to enjoy the class for much longer than otehrwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn View Post
    Is it really something to be content about though? Being safe for the next two years or so just so they can push through some crap changes under the guise of an expansion rework?
    at least we're now guaranteed to gain new things on the revamp, not just losing things, like what happened to SAM, mid expac revamps were a mistake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    They were gonna do them anyway, but at least this way we can buy some time before them. For e it's a win cause I'll be able to enjoy the class for much longer than otehrwise.
    who said you won't enjoy the rework though? personally a bandaid is best removed quickly in one go, get the pain over and done with.
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    Last edited by Selvokaz; 07-21-2022 at 09:34 AM.

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